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Author Topic: [Modern] Greater Balance  (Read 380 times)

Anthoniejf223

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[Modern] Greater Balance
« on: June 14, 2017, 08:26:05 am »
Greater Balance

Trying for a cheaper value but fun and different play style, based off of a few different varieties but over all the same.

The sideboard is overwhelming price difference, however it is only there if you have the cards or money to add them. It makes the deck more aggressive, fix in main deck as you see fit. Total cost still under 300$ which is good for modern.

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Re: [Modern] Greater Balance
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 04:32:19 am »

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Re: [Modern] Greater Balance
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2017, 03:56:57 pm »
18 lands is just not enough considering how mana specific your deck is. Especially when you factor in your only land filtering is a single evolving wilds. Simply put, you're nearly never going to feel consistent when playing this deck. There will be turns when you do nothing because you're waiting on drawing the right land.
There is just no way you can build a 4 color deck and go super budget on the lands and have the deck be playable.

In terms of the deck itself, you really go deep into borderposts and your only win condition is beating in with Greater Gargadon. The point of boarderposts is for you to have mana in order to cast spells after you've cascaded into Restore Balance. You're not trying to cascade into it multiple times. It's about creating a board state in which you can win within 1-3 turns while severely limiting what your opponent can do. Simply put, what you're trying to produce a bunch of mana, only to cast Greater Gargadon, when you should have a Greater Gargadon ready to come out by the time you cascade into Restore Balance.

Here is a boarderpostless version that I build a while back.
Notice how there are multiple suspend creatures that can come out after I've cascaded into Restore Balance.
This build also uses planeswalkers as an alternative win condition since they are not affected by Restore Balance.
The idea is to create a boardstate you can win with after you've resolved Restore Balance.
Boarderposts are a contingency plan for decks that do use them.

Here is a more recent build that incorporates As Foretold.
As Foretold replaces your need for borderposts since it lets you cast free spells. It also eliminates the need to cascade because you can cast no mana cost spells with As Fortold since it gives them a mana cost of 0.

I hope this helps. Restore Balance is one of my most favorite archetypes and I love seeing more people try to make it work. Its a hard deck to build so kudos to you.

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Re: [Modern] Greater Balance
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2017, 10:55:39 pm »
Thank you for the Input, the main reason I posted it was to get the idea out there with this build. I know the main deck set up only has 2 creatures to Try to beat my opponent with, however the side board has the other cards that should be in the main deck the 2-3 nahiri the harbinger and at least 1 possible 2 Kozilek the butcher of truth should be in main deck as a win condition. However right now my money it tight and I was able to trade for a large portion of the main deck list and I played the deck as is no side board and it works pretty well for a budget deck, as long as you like weird magic strategies.

As soon as I get the side board cards and play around with the balancing of the nahiri in main it will be better situated. I do like the decks you listed I just like this concept of the deck I made this list from watching star city games youtube channel and I wanted to see if I could build a variet of it my way.

As for lands my own play testing of the deck to see how it runs the original build I did was only 14 lands and I would have to go down to a 4-5 card hand to keep, I only had to do that once with the 18 land. I did try to do a 22 land base but it wasn't able to do quite what it needed to do using proxy cards to at least test the idea. I plan on upgrading to  a more powerful version once I get my money caught up. So other possible win condition that help the deck be more fuild is always appreciated.

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Re: [Modern] Greater Balance
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2017, 04:33:05 am »
Also be weary of running Wheel of Fate. Your deck can cascade into it and that might not always be what you want.

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Re: [Modern] Greater Balance
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2017, 04:36:09 am »
Yes that I know it does run also the risk of helping my opponent, however I can't afford the 4x ancestral visions

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Re: [Modern] Greater Balance
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 01:13:48 am »