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Author Topic: Arcane signet vs felwar stone  (Read 2156 times)

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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2019, 11:12:26 am »
I don't understand why it has to be an either/or situation.  Most decks could benefit from both.

My new standard ramp package for 3-color decks:
(standard -  meaning the list will be adjusted/added for the deck's needs and availability within my collection, but this is the mental starting point)

Sol Ring
3 Talisman
3 Signets (Guild)
Arcane Signet
Fellwar Stone
Mind Stone/Thran Dynamo
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My new standard ramp package for 2-color decks:

Sol Ring
Talisman
Guild Signet
Arcane Signet
Fellwar Stone
2 Medallions
Mind Stone
Thought Vessel
Thran Dynamo
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It can even go into mono decks.  My new standard ramp package for mono-decks:

Sol Ring
Fellwar Stone
Arcane Signet
Diamond
Medallion
Mind Stone
Thought Vessel
Thran Dynamo
Solemn Simulacrum
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2019, 01:04:55 pm »
The only thing that disappoints me about this is having to wait until October for Arcane Signet to come out.
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2019, 12:57:47 am »
The only thing that disappoints me about this is having to wait until October for Arcane Signet to come out.

I'm hoping we only have to wait until mid-August.  Arcane Signet could make an appearance in C19.
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2019, 02:55:29 pm »
I think Arcane Signet not only obliterates Fellwar Stone, but almost every other 3-mana rock out there.
I don't like when Wizards print cards so blatantly overbusted, to me power creep is supposed to be a bad thing.
Fellwar Stone is still a thing for Sen Triplets, though.

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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2019, 03:31:54 pm »
How come nobody's comparing it to commander's sphere?  I think it's strictly better.  I rarely use the sac/draw, usually only if someone blows up the board.  I'd happily pay 1 less and lose the option.
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2019, 03:45:43 pm »
It can even go into mono decks.  My new standard ramp package for mono-decks:

Sol Ring
Fellwar Stone
Arcane Signet
Diamond
Medallion
Mind Stone
Thought Vessel
Thran Dynamo
Solemn Simulacrum
Can I add a few CMC 2 rocks? Since you included the Diamond cycle you might as well add other enters-tapped rocks.

Colour-producing:
Coldsteel Heart
Star Compass
Pillar of Origins

Colorless:
Everflowing Chalice

Dork-rocks:
Manakin
Hedron Crawler
Copper Myr / Gold Myr / Iron Myr / Leaden Myr / Silver Myr

OP's question is a loaded question in a way. It's not like Arcane Signet is going to be competing against Fellwar Stone. If the amount of ramp in a deck is fixed it's actually going to compete with (and push out) one of the weaker rocks, like the Diamond-cycle or the Myr-cycle.
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2019, 03:56:30 pm »
I mean the problem with the power creep theory is that there is already much stronger ramp. Sure this'll replace Fellwar Stone or 3 cost rocks, but a lot of decks won't run it because all their ramp is already better than Arcane Signet.
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2019, 08:10:26 pm »
I can see it not being played in more competitive circles, but pretty much all the casual players I know are excited about it.

I'm curious to see your ramp ranking Soren.
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2019, 09:12:47 pm »
I hope Arcane Signet is in both the Brawl pre-cons AND the 2019 Commander pre-cons.

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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2019, 09:16:02 pm »
What ranking
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Re: Arcane signet vs felwar stone
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2019, 10:01:43 pm »
As far as how you rank the ramp for how good it is.
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