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Autor Thema: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?  (Gelesen 714 mal)

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Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« am: Februar 11, 2020, 05:31:59 Nachmittag »
Are there any other cards that function like Jarad's Orders & Final Parting ? (allowing you to search your library and dump one into the GY and one into your hand) Or the other cards with this effect one or the other such as Entomb?
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #1 am: Februar 11, 2020, 05:39:04 Nachmittag »
Buried alive is a classic.

I think there are a couple of others. If I remember them before anyone else mentions them I'll edit this post.

Edit:

I remembered another one! Corpse Connoisseur.

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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #2 am: Februar 11, 2020, 05:41:52 Nachmittag »
I don't know how I forgot Corpse Connoisseur. I use to have it in a deck.
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #3 am: Februar 11, 2020, 05:53:56 Nachmittag »
Corpse Connoisseur only gets you one creature in the grave.  Nothing to hand.


Fork in the Road does this with basics. 


Realms Uncharted works similarly with lands.


Gifts Ungiven can kinda do this - 2 piles, one to hand the other to grave.


Intuition is similar to Gifts Ungiven.


That's all I found.
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #4 am: Februar 11, 2020, 05:55:19 Nachmittag »
Yea I've got Intuition, but Gifts Ungiven is banned in Commander.
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #5 am: Februar 11, 2020, 06:00:56 Nachmittag »
I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to use it.  But since you didn't specify format or colors AND the list was short, I just put it there for completion's sake  8)

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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #6 am: Februar 11, 2020, 10:36:47 Nachmittag »
So the next piece of this question is this...

Besides Brawn, Filth, Wonder, Vengeful Pharaoh, Anger, Valor, and Genesis - are there cards that want to be in your graveyard?

I don't mean cards that care about what is in your graveyard, I mean cards that themselves want to be IN the graveyard.
« Letzte Änderung: Februar 11, 2020, 10:40:53 Nachmittag von WWolfe »
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #7 am: Februar 11, 2020, 10:42:29 Nachmittag »
Fo you specifically want cards that give benefit in the yard like anger or do you want cards that can be utilized from the yard too like gravecrawler?
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #8 am: Februar 11, 2020, 10:44:29 Nachmittag »
Cards that benefit from being in the yard like Anger.
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #9 am: Februar 11, 2020, 10:46:34 Nachmittag »
Bridge from Below is one, but it's self-exile clause makes it non-ideal for commander.

There are always the cards with dredge like Life from the Loam, which in a graveyard deck you want to take advantage of.

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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #10 am: Februar 11, 2020, 10:52:12 Nachmittag »
Dearly departed is one. Are we looking at your Sidisi deck though? Just Sultai?

I did a quick scryfall search for "As long as in your graveyard" and that is all I found that you didn't already mention.
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #11 am: Februar 11, 2020, 10:56:52 Nachmittag »
Are you specifically looking for cards that want to be in the graveyard, or is it enough that being in the graveyard isn't an issue (in the case of self milling for example)?

So things like reassembling skeleton. It doesn't have any inherent benefit from being in the yard, but it also doesn't really care if you mill it as it has it's own built in recursion.

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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #12 am: Februar 11, 2020, 10:59:32 Nachmittag »
Yea, it's for my Sidisi deck that I'm reworking (yet again).

Cards that want to be in the graveyard is what I'm primarily looking for.
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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #13 am: Februar 12, 2020, 12:12:39 Vormittag »
Well, Glory is one that is better in the graveyard but not much help in Sultai. 

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Re: Other cards like Jarad's Order & Final Parting?
« Antwort #14 am: Februar 12, 2020, 02:02:55 Vormittag »
For tutoring cards right to the graveyard, Gravebreaker Lamia is the only one I can think of that hasn't been mentioned. Buried Alive/Entomb are probably the best ones though.

As for value, if you specifically want static effects that happen from being in the graveyard, you have them all listed (except maybe Riftstone Portal, though that's not in your colors). That said, things like Dread Return, Bloodghast and Gravecrawler are all fantastic from the graveyard.

There are a few flashback cards that have stronger effects when cast from the gy, like Increasing Ambition, Increasing Savagery and Increasing Confusion.