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Author Topic: Najeela Mana Base Help!  (Read 1042 times)

KB2MCCLOUD

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Najeela Mana Base Help!
« on: May 06, 2020, 10:28:33 pm »
I need help figuring out my mana base for this deck. I don't have the budget for a lot of the better lands such as pain lands and fetch lands. I'm just trying to get the right balance. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 


Deck: Najeela's Endless Assault

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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2020, 01:21:36 am »
I believe you are talking about shocklands (https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Ashockland) as the lands considered painlands (https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Apainland&order=name&as=grid&unique=cards) aren't unreasonably expensive. Unfortunately, without a better idea of what your budget is outside of below fetch/shockland prices, it's hard to make good suggestions. I'll just hit you with a blanket of them in the hope that some will help.

Unclaimed Territory (~$1.50)
Path of Ancestry (~$5.75)
Vivid Lands - Vivid Grove, Vivid Meadow, etc. (https://scryfall.com/search?q=vivid+type%3Aland&order=usd&as=grid) (~$0.50 a copy) - especially the green, white, and red ones as your deck leans towards those colors.
Painlands - Battlefield Forge, Llanowar Wastes, etc. (https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Apainland&unique=cards&as=grid&order=usd) (from $1 to $5 a copy, depending on the land)
Checklands - Hinterland Harbor, Rootbound Crag, etc. (https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acheckland&unique=cards&as=grid&order=usd) (~$4 a copy)
Battlelands - Cinder Glade, Smoldering Marsh, etc. (https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Abattleland&unique=cards&as=grid&order=usd) (~$2 a copy)

Budget 5 color mana bases can be rough, so I've found that leaning into green for its fantastic land-based ramp is the most consistent way to hit your colors. You already have Cultivate & Kodama's Reach, but other spells like Farseek ($0.80) & Rampant Growth ($0.50), or a few more expensive cards like Birds of Paradise (~$5.50) & Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (~$7.50) are all fantastic options to help out your mana base.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2020, 03:28:16 am »
Hey there,

I have a list of cheap(ish) lands that I've grouped together according to their synergies. It's a list I use to build a cheap 5-color manabase. You can view the prices on the "details" tab when you click the name of the list. Hope it helps some.

https://deckstats.net/decks/93006/1363074-list-cheap-5-color-land-option/en
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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2020, 04:52:53 pm »
Your mana base isn't just your lands.  It includes all your ramp and color-fixing as well.  I question the inclusion of the monuments as "ramp".  Sure the white one makes warriors, so you probably want that.  But you only have a handful of cards that will benefit from the mana reduction of either one.  I would certainly want to include some of the aforementioned ramp spells like Rampant Growth, Farseek, etc.


Then, your deck is primarily white & green.  The other 3 colors are fairly evenly split. Of the white/green - your ramp is all green (as it usually should be).  You want to be able to cast your green spells early.  You want your lands to be primarily green.  Wherever possible, only use dual-type lands that can make green mana.  So the tri-lands like Arcane Sanctum are out.  Also, these tri-lands enter the battlefield tapped.  If your land is going to enter tapped, I would suggest using lands that make all 5 colors.  I would start with the Vivid cycle.  After that, I would look for either lands that don't enter the battlefield tapped (usually not budget friendly), or lands that make all 5 colors - like Path of Ancestry, Rupture Spire, Transguild Promenade, etc.  You still want to keep a lot of basics.  Your ramp spells (that fetch basics) along with Terramorphic and Evolving Wilds are your budget friendly color fixing.  Run 4 to 6 Forest and 2 to 3 each of Island, Mountain, Plains, Swamp.


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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2020, 09:37:42 pm »
I'd recommend taking out Reliquary Tower and replacing with a basic forest.

Also, think about things that allow you to untap your lands to maximize the value of your tri-lands. I've seen Bear Umbra do some serious work in a Najeela deck (scratch that, I just noticed the companion). Curse of Bounty would also work. Wilderness Reclamation and Seedborne Muse not so much because you want to use them the turn they came in on.

Navigator's Compass could also be a budget way to fix your colors.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2020, 09:43:37 pm by terminalgeek »

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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2020, 10:38:57 pm »
I would run any of the cheap, 3 mana wubrg rocks like Darksteel Ingot over Navigator's Compass any day, every day.

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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2020, 06:49:49 pm »
Thank you everyone for the help! I known that "5 color mana base" and "Cheap" don't really belong in the same sentence but all these suggestions have really helped me figure out where to focus my efforts. @WizardSpartan, I will find room for Farseek and Rampant Growth for sure. I am also going take the advice from @ApothecaryGeist  and focus my tapped land around those that can produce all 5 colors. Once I run some play testing I will be able to see how the deck plays and see how consistent the combo is. I will continue to make adjustments and upgrade the mana base over time as my budget allows. It will be a struggle because I love building new decks more than I love optimizing them lol. That mindset might be a little backward but I love having a lot of verity to choose from. I have only been playing EDH for about 3 years so I'm sure once I find the decks that I consistently love playing I will focus more on optimizing them and giving them the mana bases they deserve.         

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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2020, 10:17:08 pm »
T because I love building new decks more than I love optimizing them lol. That mindset might be a little backward but I love having a lot of verity to choose from.     


Welcome to Casual Commander.  A lot of us feel that way.  I often put cards aside for optimizing a deck later.  But I often find that it either works great as is ... or it doesn't and I take it apart with no further upgrades.
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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2020, 12:58:18 am »
I've just taken a look at the current deck.
get rid of Rhonas's Monument. you usually won't cast enough creatures to make use of the cast effect. besides that, you have just 7 targets for the cost reduction, so it won't really ramp.
Oketra's Monument is way better, because the cast effect synergizes well with najeela.

Shard Convergence would also be a possible option. it isn't that cheap to play and "only" gives you the lands on the hand, but it makes sure that you've got all colors. Besides that, you are just limited for land types, so it will somewhat scale up if you improve your land base (e.g. battle lands).
Joiner Adept is another budget card that could help with color fixing, as well as Chromatic Lantern, even if the lantern is a little more expensive.
Ash Barrens is, at least for me, a little better than evolving wilds, since you can just play it as colorless lands later on. the cycling cost first seem to make it worse, but the fact that you can use the land you fetch afterwards brings it on pair. the only situation where evolving wilds is strict better is the turn 1 lant drop

If you want to play combo, Druids' Repository would be a possible option. once you get 5 warriors able to attack, you're able to generate endless combat steps.

besides that, here is my najeela deck. It won't help you much with the mana base, because it's build on a higher budget, but maybe you'll notice something else that catches your eye. My personal restriction was warrior tribe (with Dryad of the Ilysian Grove as only exception because of it's damn good mana fixing abilities).
https://deckstats.net/decks/112190/1047892-najeela-warrior-tribe/
« Last Edit: May 09, 2020, 01:00:33 am by Judaspriester »
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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2020, 05:29:33 am »
This is my najeela deck. I've never had an issue with my land base. I know it could be better but it works. https://deckstats.net/decks/131347/1377992-najeela-the-blade-blossom

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Re: Najeela Mana Base Help!
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2020, 04:59:15 pm »

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