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Title: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: TheWakaEmu117 on February 05, 2018, 12:19:45 am
So I thought it would be fun to brew up an EDH land hate deck. now I am well aware that this is one of the filithiest and meanest mechanics ever printed and one Wizards is not a fan of. The idea started as boros land hate deck, then mardu then finally WRBG. I decided that because I thought it would be cool to abuse putting lands into the graveyard but being able to play them while denying everyone else mana.

Here is a compilation of cards that I think would be good for this. its not quite a deck yet which is why I didn't put this in deck review. https://deckstats.net/decks/61302/909854-lol-no-lands-for-you

I am kinda just brainstorming and compiling good cards for this. I also know that i am missing a lot of great cards for this like life of the loam and stuff. know Im just brewing the deck and chances of me building are low although I do want to keep the budget with in reason. I don't want to shell out more than hundred dollars for a card. which means ravages of war (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Ravages+of+War) is not in. and preferably not over 50 dollars though I will make a few exceptions for cards that are exceptionally good in this deck such as crucible of worlds (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Crucible+of+Worlds).

again this type of deck is really terrible not in unplayable but extremely hateable.
so what do you think
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: Soren841 on February 05, 2018, 12:59:52 am
Deck: Numot EDH (https://deckstats.net/decks/86132/870985-numot-edh/en) (https://deckstats.net/mana/m/w.gif) (https://deckstats.net/mana/m/u.gif) (https://deckstats.net/mana/m/r.gif)

//Commander
1 Numot, the Devastator (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Numot%2C+the+Devastator)

//White
1 Aegis Angel (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Aegis+Angel)
1 Armageddon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Armageddon)
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Avacyn%2C+Angel+of+Hope)
1 Catastrophe (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Catastrophe)
1 Celestial Dawn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Celestial+Dawn)
1 Cleansing (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Cleansing)
1 Consecrate Land (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Consecrate+Land)
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Elspeth%2C+Knight-Errant)
1 Enlightened Tutor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Enlightened+Tutor)
1 Idyllic Tutor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Idyllic+Tutor)
1 Myojin of Cleansing Fire (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Myojin+of+Cleansing+Fire)
1 Ravages of War (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ravages+of+War)
1 Serra Ascendant (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Serra+Ascendant)

//Blue
1 As Foretold (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=As+Foretold)
1 Fabricate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fabricate)
1 Kefnet the Mindful (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kefnet+the+Mindful)
1 Mana Drain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mana+Drain)
1 Mana Vortex (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mana+Vortex)
1 Ponder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ponder)
1 Preordain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Preordain)
1 Show and Tell (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Show+and+Tell)
1 Transmute Artifact (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Transmute+Artifact)

//Red
1 Blood Sun (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blood+Sun)
1 Curse of Opulence (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Curse+of+Opulence)
1 Icefall (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Icefall)
1 Impending Disaster (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Impending+Disaster)
1 Mana Flare (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mana+Flare)
1 Mana Seism (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mana+Seism)
1 Mine Layer (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mine+Layer)
1 Molten Rain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Molten+Rain)
1 Myojin of Infinite Rage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Myojin+of+Infinite+Rage)
1 Obliterate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Obliterate)
1 Orcish Settlers (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Orcish+Settlers)
1 Pillage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Pillage)
1 Price of Glory (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Price+of+Glory)
1 Roiling Terrain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Roiling+Terrain)
1 Steam Vines (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Steam+Vines)
1 Stone Rain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Stone+Rain)
1 Wild Research (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wild+Research)

//Multicolor
1 Ajani Vengeant (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ajani+Vengeant)
1 Boros Charm (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Boros+Charm)

//Colorless
1 Azorius Signet (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Azorius+Signet)
1 Boros Signet (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Boros+Signet)
1 Chromatic Lantern (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Chromatic+Lantern)
1 Commander's Sphere (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Commander%27s+Sphere)
1 Crucible of Worlds (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Crucible+of+Worlds)
1 Darksteel Garrison (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Darksteel+Garrison)
1 Darksteel Ingot (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Darksteel+Ingot)
1 Darksteel Plate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Darksteel+Plate)
1 Darksteel Reactor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Darksteel+Reactor)
1 Helm of Kaldra (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Helm+of+Kaldra)
1 Izzet Signet (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Izzet+Signet)
1 Lightning Greaves (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lightning+Greaves)
1 Mana Crypt (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mana+Crypt)
1 Shield of Kaldra (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Shield+of+Kaldra)
1 Sol Ring (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sol+Ring)
1 Swiftfoot Boots (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Swiftfoot+Boots)
1 Sword of Kaldra (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sword+of+Kaldra)

//Lands
1 Cascading Cataracts (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Cascading+Cataracts)
1 Command Tower (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Command+Tower)
1 Darksteel Citadel (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Darksteel+Citadel)
1 Hallowed Fountain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Hallowed+Fountain)
9 Island (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Island)
1 Mana Confluence (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mana+Confluence)
11 Mountain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mountain)
1 Mystic Monastery (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mystic+Monastery)
9 Plains (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Plains)
1 Plateau (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Plateau)
1 Sacred Foundry (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sacred+Foundry)
1 Steam Vents (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Steam+Vents)
1 Tundra (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tundra)
1 Vesuva (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vesuva)
1 Volcanic Island (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Volcanic+Island)

(https://i.hbtronix.de/chart_pie.png) Display deck statistics (https://deckstats.net/decks/86132/870985-numot-edh)
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: WWolfe on February 05, 2018, 01:02:36 am
I ran a Kaalia MLD deck, just be aware you're going to draw major heat when people realize that's what you're playing.

Have you thought about including Bitter Ordeal (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Bitter+Ordeal)? It's nasty after an Armageddon (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Armageddon). (blow up all lands with Armageddon (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Armageddon) then you get to search their libraries and put a card- a land- out of their deck into exile (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Exile) for each land you blew up).

Edit- spelling is not my friend
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: Soren841 on February 05, 2018, 01:14:53 am
Damn thats sweet.. he isnt in black tho
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: homietre on February 05, 2018, 04:41:55 pm
Damn thats sweet.. he isnt in black tho

he s using dune brood nephilim (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Dune-Brood+Nephilim) as his commander, which is black
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: Soren841 on February 05, 2018, 05:09:24 pm
I didnt see the sectiom about his colors, my bad. I think land destruction has it's place as a kind of stax build, but its very difficult to build and pilot because of the hate it draws
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: G. Moto on February 05, 2018, 07:53:29 pm
But wait, the Nephilim are not legendary creatures though so who's the commander then? If you used the dragon as your commander then you could still get some good land destruction going. Use red for the destruction spells such as demolish (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Demolish) and then use a blue spell to bring it right back to hand. Like for example, Archaeomancer (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Archaeomancer), or elite arcanist (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Elite+Arcanist) with volcanic upheaval (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Volcanic+Upheaval). That it itself would put pressure on your opponent constantly since you could destroy their lands EVERY TURN.
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: ApothecaryGeist on February 05, 2018, 09:17:37 pm
Quote
But wait, the Nephilim are not legendary creatures

A lot of playgroups allow the nephilim to be used as commanders.  Prior to the release (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Release) of Commander 2016 decks there was a grand total of zero legendary 4-color creatures.  There was a grand total of 5 non-legendary 4-color creatures; one in each color grouping; the nephilim.  Even R&D has stated that if they could go back, they would make the nephilim legendary.  edhrec even has them listed as "unofficial" options.

Happy Brewing!  :)
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: Soren841 on February 05, 2018, 09:20:51 pm
Couldnt they just errata them
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: ApothecaryGeist on February 05, 2018, 09:30:57 pm
When the C16 decks came out, I thought that would be their chance.  I was kinda surprised that they didn't.
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: WWolfe on February 05, 2018, 11:18:18 pm
When the C16 decks came out, I thought that would be their chance.  I was kinda surprised that they didn't.

Yea, I was expecting them to errata the Nephilim via reprint when C16 came out.
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: TheWakaEmu117 on February 05, 2018, 11:47:39 pm
yea its not something I'm super worried about my play group is pretty casual. I'm just looking for ideas and stuff the Armageddon (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Armageddon) and bitter ordeal (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Bitter+Ordeal) is terribly mean but something that you do once with a dumb smile while everyone screams at you in fury for being a terrible human (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Human) being.
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: WWolfe on February 11, 2018, 02:26:20 am
Armageddon (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Armageddon) & Bitter Ordeal (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Bitter+Ordeal) is one of those "wait, you just did what?" moments where people just have that look on their faces. It's a very sweet feeling.
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: G. Moto on February 13, 2018, 07:38:25 am
Bitter ordeal (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Bitter+Ordeal) looks like a great card. time spiral (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Time+Spiral) has definitely produced some good cards.So i'm guessing that since you're going for the land destruction that you'd want some control spells to slow down the gameplay right?
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: WWolfe on February 13, 2018, 05:01:33 pm
Bitter Ordeal (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Bitter+Ordeal) is great...a friend showed me it when I was building another deck, I'd forgotten about it, and I was instantly like "I have a great use for that".  8)
Title: Re: EDH land Hate... yea we are going to be that guy.
Post by: TheWakaEmu117 on February 13, 2018, 06:07:54 pm
yeah its real mean