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Title: Green Black Deck any advice is appreciated
Post by: Skellon1313 on April 19, 2017, 11:31:38 am
Deck: Green Black (https://deckstats.net/decks/85028/706723-green-black/en) (https://deckstats.net/mana/m/b.gif) (https://deckstats.net/mana/m/g.gif)

//Main
1 Accursed Witch (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Accursed+Witch)
1 Attune with Aether (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Attune+with+Aether)
1 Battle at the Bridge (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Battle+at+the+Bridge)
1 Blooming Marsh (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Blooming+Marsh)
1 Diabolic Tutor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Diabolic+Tutor)
1 Ever After (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Ever+After)
10 Forest (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Forest)
1 Fortuitous Find (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Fortuitous+Find)
1 Foul Orchard (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Foul+Orchard)
1 Foundry Inspector (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Foundry+Inspector)
1 Gavony Unhallowed (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Gavony+Unhallowed)
1 Gifted Aetherborn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Gifted+Aetherborn)
1 Hazardous Conditions (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Hazardous+Conditions)
2 Herald of Anguish (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Herald+of+Anguish)
2 Heroic Intervention (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Heroic+Intervention)
1 Ironclad Revolutionary (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Ironclad+Revolutionary)
1 Lifecrafter's Bestiary (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Lifecrafter%27s+Bestiary)
1 Maulfist Revolutionary (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Maulfist+Revolutionary)
1 Metalwork Colossus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Metalwork+Colossus)
1 Murder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Murder)
1 Natural Obsolescence (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Natural+Obsolescence)
1 Nature's Way (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Nature%27s+Way)
1 Night Market Lookout (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Night+Market+Lookout)
1 Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Oviya+Pashiri%2C+Sage+Lifecrafter)
3 Prophetic Prism (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Prophetic+Prism)
1 Resourceful Return (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Resourceful+Return)
1 Ridgescale Tusker (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Ridgescale+Tusker)
1 Servant of the Conduit (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Servant+of+the+Conduit)
1 Sly Requisitioner (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Sly+Requisitioner)
1 Strange Augmentation (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Strange+Augmentation)
10 Swamp (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Swamp)
1 Tangleclaw Werewolf (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Tangleclaw+Werewolf)
1 Terrarion (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Terrarion)
1 Treasure Keeper (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Treasure+Keeper)
1 Underhanded Designs (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Underhanded+Designs)
2 Winding Constrictor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Winding+Constrictor)
1 Woodland Patrol (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Woodland+Patrol)

(https://i.hbtronix.de/chart_pie.png) Display deck statistics (https://deckstats.net/decks/85028/706723-green-black)

Looking for any advice on this deck.  I am brand (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Brand) new to MTG as well as to this site so any feedback is appreciated!
Title: Re: Green Black Deck any advice is appreciated
Post by: Stupickles on April 20, 2017, 03:09:58 am
A couple of things that helped me when I got into mtg: check out some tier 1-3 decks (pro tour winners, GP winners, brews from pros., etc.) It will help you get familiar with deck building strategy, i.e. Mana curve, synergy, interaction with opponent, win condition, all around having a plan that has power and consistency. There are a lot of good places online that have free content that will help you get better. I look at the channel (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Channel) fireball (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Fireball) website almost everyday. You can find good stuff here as well. As far as your g/b goes, it does need some tuning, you might find it to be a bit clunky. However, I do really like winding constrictor (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Winding+Constrictor) decks, and looking at a couple g/b deck lists will give you a lot of info on how to tune this deck. Deckstats has a slight learning curve, try organizing your deck list by card type. It will help you and others be able to see your plan clearly. I hope all of this will help. Welcome to magic, it's the greatest game ever made. ;)
Title: Re: Green Black Deck any advice is appreciated
Post by: robort on April 20, 2017, 04:02:55 am
The best thing that helped me is actually playing so I could get better. Didn't mater how many articles I have read or how many videos I've watched until I continually played, then I've got better.

For starters though, you have a lot of 1 of's. Meaning if you are looking for or need a certain card then the percentages are low to get that card. Running 4 of wich is the max you can have gives you a much higher percent to get that card. You'll also want synergy in the deck.
For example lets look at 2 cards, Winding Constrictor (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Winding+Constrictor) and Foundry Inspector (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Foundry+Inspector). Winding Constrictor (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Winding+Constrictor) wants to utilize "+1 +1 counters" and Foundry Inspector (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Foundry+Inspector) wants to utilize "artifacts". These 2 cards don't really senergize with each other. So now you have to figure out what you want the deck to do for synergy.

Any other questions, feel free to ask and I hope that helped
Title: Re: Green Black Deck any advice is appreciated
Post by: manuagg on April 20, 2017, 06:34:34 pm
Try to get 4 of or 3 of the cards you really want to play and focus on a single strategy, in this case counters, you already have some good cards for the deck, just have to cut (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Cut) the not so efficient cards of the deck and get play sets of the better cards. Here is an example of a similar deck I build a week or so ago, I like to play on a budget so there are some cards that can be upgraded, but it's to give you an idea https://deckstats.net/decks/10955/704914-budget-g-b-counters/es
This deck is focused on proliferating counters, +1/+1 counters and energy counters that I can use to get even more +1/+1 counters or card advantage
Title: Re: Green Black Deck any advice is appreciated
Post by: Skellon1313 on April 20, 2017, 11:23:42 pm
Thanks for the suggestions, I really appreciate it and I will take it all into consideration.  I built this deck purely from packs I have opened which is why I have a lot of 1 of cards in the deck, but I can see from the suggestions and checking other decks I should probably buy some specific cards along the way.
Title: Re: Green Black Deck any advice is appreciated
Post by: Philippe Saner on April 22, 2017, 01:49:26 am
Before you buy any singles...what direction do you want to take this deck?

The Constrictor deck is one option, but you've got some of the cards for an artifact deck too. Herald of Anguish (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Herald+of+Anguish), Battle at the Bridge (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Battle+at+the+Bridge), Metalwork Colossus (http://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?lng=en&card=Metalwork+Colossus)...there's a deck there, if you want to build it.

Green probably isn't the best secondary colour for that deck, though.