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Title: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:01:51 pm
Walkers with static abilities and a new keyword Amass
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:02:45 pm
Pt 1
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Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:03:47 pm
Pt 2
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Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:04:36 pm
Pt 3
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Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:05:25 pm
Pt 4
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on March 31, 2019, 06:20:46 pm
Ravnica at War is going to be nuts.. 4 mana to exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) any multicolored permanents is going to hose a lot of playable cards that will become unplayable especially in standard.

Then the planeswalkers so far that have no way to uptick themselves besides Ajani with of course the minus ability just turns them into so far meh. Liliana can't even hit her ultimate without Ajani possibly helping so far. Oops we do have proliferate so it may not be a bad thing if planeswalkers can't hit ultimates.

Amass looks like a very interesting new mechanic. Gives you at least an opportunity (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Opportunity) to start an army if you don't have one yet with a zombie token
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:27:57 pm
Yeah first impressions I think Amass could actually be good gameplay wise, and I like the static abilities on walkers. This set so far seems really bad for EDH but decently strong for everything else. I can see Grixis (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Grixis) Zombies/Amass in Modern maybe?
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:36:22 pm
Pt 5
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 06:37:35 pm
So Citadel is fucking insane in EDH
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on March 31, 2019, 06:46:29 pm
I think Circu, Dimir Lobotomist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Circu%2C+Dimir-Lobotomist) just got a lot crazier. If it's a non-land, pay life to cast it. If it's a land, exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) it away.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on March 31, 2019, 07:14:44 pm
LOL yes it is insane.. I am sure you already have ideas that beat mine.. but torment of hailfire (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Torment+of+Hailfire) for 50 alex.. oops I lose 52 life to do that.. Before I think of that would X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) be zero? Just making sure because if it can be any amount then casting anything with X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) in it's cost with Citadel is going to be extremely bonkers.

Sorry people as I sac my 10 tokens to take 10 life away from you all, oops I had my blood artist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blood+Artist) on the field with my 10 creature tokens so lose an additional 10 more life. What was that? Oh I forgot I had Exquisite Blood (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exquisite+Blood) in play and Oooh I also have the enchantment in play that Sheldon despises of Wound Reflection (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wound+Reflection)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Loggiu on March 31, 2019, 07:28:10 pm
UUUUUUUUUUUUUU.FO.!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 07:40:15 pm
I believe X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) would have to be 0, because it says cmc
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 07:47:47 pm
Pt 6
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 07:49:01 pm
Pt 7ish?
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Firegriff on March 31, 2019, 08:16:21 pm
So... Rare, non-Planeswalker cards exist... Yet all packs will have a Planeswalker... Hmmm.... Curiouser and curiouser...
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 08:17:57 pm
I think they may be replacing the token or something? That would be smart
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Post by: Morganator 2.0 on March 31, 2019, 08:41:42 pm
It's probably going to work out the same way as Dominaria did for a legendary creature in each pack.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 11:11:12 pm
Pt 7
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Post by: Soren841 on March 31, 2019, 11:53:33 pm
Basically impossible to read
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Iknoth on April 01, 2019, 03:32:41 am
Go to the reddit, there's a higher res version of the spoiler ^
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 04:30:02 am

-Roalesk, Apex Hybrid (2)GGU (Mythic)

Flying, Trample

When ~ enters the battlefield, put 2 +1+1 counters on another target creature you control

When ~ dies, proliferate, then proliferate again.

4/5



Nicol Bolas (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Nicol+Bolas), Dragon-God UBBBR (Mythic)

~ Has all loyalty abilities of all other planeswalkers on the battlefield

+1 You draw a card, each opponent exiles a card from their hand or a permanent they control

-3 Destroy target creature or Planeswalker

-8 Each opponent who doesn't control a legendary creature or planeswalker loses the game

(4)



Niv-Mizzet Reborn WUBRG (Mythic)

Flying

When ~ enters the battlefield, reveal the top 10 cards of your library. For each color pair, choose a card that's exactly those colors from among them. Put the chosen cards into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order

6/6



Teferi, Time Raveler (1)WU (Rare)

Each opponent can cast spells only at any time they could cast a sorcery

+1 Until your next turn, cast sorceries as if they had flash (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Flash)

-3 Return up to one target artifact, creature or enchantment to its owner's hand, draw a card.

(4)



Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord (2)WB (Rare)

As long as it's your turn, creatures and planeswalkers you control have lifelink (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lifelink)

+2 ~ deals 1 damage to target player or planeswalker

-X return target creature with converted mana cost X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) from your graveyard or the battlefield. That creature is a vampire in addition to its other types

(4)



Ral, Storm Conduit (2) UR (Rare)

Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, ~ deals 1 damage to target opponent or planeswalker

+2 Scry 1

-2 When you cast your next instant or sorcry spell this turn, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy

(4)



Domri, Anarch of Bolas (1)RG (Rare)

Creatures you control get +1/+0

+1 Add G or R. Creatures you cast this turn can't be countered

-2 Target creature you control fights target creature you don't control

(3)



Karn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Karn), the Great Creator (4) (Rare)

Activated abilities of artifacts your opponents control can't be activated

+1 Until your next turn, up to one target noncreature artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and toughness each equal its converted mana cost

-2 You may choose an artifact card you own from outside the game or in exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile), reveal that card and add it to your hand

(5)



Gideon Blackblade (1)WW (Mythic)

As long as its your turn, ~ is a 4/4 human (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Human) soldier (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Soldier) with industructible that's still a planeswalker. Prevent any damage that would be dealt to ~ during your turn.

+1 Up to one other target creature you control gains your choice of Vigilance (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vigilance), Lifelink (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lifelink) or indestructible until end of turn,

-6 Exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) target nonland permanent

(4)



Chandra, Fire (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fire) Artisan (2)RR (Rare)

Whenever one or more loyalty counters are removed from chandra, deal damage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Deal+Damage) equal to the number removed to target opponent or planeswalkers

+1 Exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) the top card of your library, you may play that card.

-7 Exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) the top seven cards of your library, you may play those cards.

(4)



Nissa, Who Shakes the World (3)GG (Rare)

Whenever you tap a forest (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Forest) for mana, add an additional G

+1 Put 3 +1/+1 counters on up to one target noncreature land you control, it becomes a 0/0 elemental (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Elemental) creature with vigilance (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vigilance). It's still a land

-8 You get an Emblem with "Lands you control have indestructible". Search your Library for any number of forests and put them into play tapped

(5)

Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: bigdogdch on April 01, 2019, 04:37:01 am
I see with so many planeswalkers and thier inability to add loyalty counters, I see that they are bringing back the proliferate ability
Can’t wait to see how much proliferation there will be
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 12:23:40 pm
Meh
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on April 01, 2019, 12:48:02 pm
So are we not going to talk about this card?
(http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/bolasscitadel.jpg)

You can pay life instead of mana to cast the top card of your library, and you can keep doing this until you inevitably hit a land. But...
This card is crazy. Not every deck will use it, but every deck that does will abuse it.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 01:00:27 pm
I mean I think it'll put Breya back on the map, the problem is it has no combos so it's stuck as a broken combination of Ad Nauseam (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ad+Nauseam) and Necropotence (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Necropotence) that can't guarantee a win on its own

Also u forgot to mention Sensei's Divining Top (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sensei%27s+Divining+Top)..
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Judaspriester on April 01, 2019, 03:39:33 pm
The new ral also seems crazy

Quote
~Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, Ral, Storm Conduit deals 1 damage to target opponent or planeswalker.

[+2]: Scry 1.

[-2]: When you cast your next instant or sorcery spell this turn, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.

step 1: activate his -2
step 2: play a big threat (non instant/sorcery)
step 3: if some1 counters this threat, play any copy spell like Twincast (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Twincast)
step 4: copy twincast (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Twincast) with with rals -2 trigger
step 5: copy twincast (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Twincast) with itself
step 6: repeat step 5 until everone else is dead (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Dead), then copy the counterspell (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Counterspell) to break the loop

GG
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 04:40:36 pm
Why do u need to break the loop if everyone is dead (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dead)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 04:41:42 pm
Pt 8
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 04:42:14 pm
And one more
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 01, 2019, 04:45:37 pm
Three thoughts so far....

1- curious to see how the Amass mechanic fully works with what other cards are released for it
2- Bolas's Citadel is gonna do some work in my Sidisi deck
3- I want a playable Koth! Though I don't want one that ends (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ends) up with only 1 ability so maybe I'll hold that request for another set
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Ylhyssia on April 01, 2019, 04:56:46 pm
This new Liliana will be going riiight into my Teysa Aristocrats deck.

It gives draw, tokens and an edict effect? I'm in, I want it.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Ylhyssia on April 01, 2019, 05:05:40 pm
Aaaaaand yet another shiny new toy for me!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 05:28:03 pm
Pt 9
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Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 05:28:54 pm
Pt 10
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Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 05:29:39 pm
Pt 11
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: blueberry314 on April 01, 2019, 05:36:21 pm
The Wanderer, Sun's Champion
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 05:51:15 pm
Pt 12
Angrath, Captain of Chaos
2[B/R][B/R]
Legendary Planeswalker - Angrath
Creatures you control have menace.

[-2]: Amass 2. (Put two +1/+1 counters on an Army you control. If you don't control one, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token first.)


Ahn Crop Invader
2R
Creature - Zombie Minotaur Warrior (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Minotaur+Warrior)
As long as it's your turn, Ahn Crop Invader has first strike.

1, Sacrifice another creature: Ahn Crop Invader gets +2/+0 until end of turn.



Angrath's Anger (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Anger)
BR
Sorcery
Choose one -

* Target player sacrifices an artifact.

* Target player sacrifices a creature.

* Target player sacrifices a planeswalker.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 08:46:40 pm
Pt 13
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Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 09:23:48 pm
Pt 14
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 01, 2019, 11:04:50 pm
Pt 15
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on April 02, 2019, 12:08:30 am
So are we not going to talk about this card?
(http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/bolasscitadel.jpg)

You can pay life instead of mana to cast the top card of your library, and you can keep doing this until you inevitably hit a land. But...
  • Necropotence (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Necropotence) can exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) that card for you.
  • Circu, Dimir Lobotomist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Circu%2C+Dimir-Lobotomist) can exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) the land, so long as the card you just cast was blue or black.
  • Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Yidris%2C+Maelstrom+Wielder) can cascade through this.
  • You can use Vampiric Tutor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vampiric+Tutor) or Mystical Tutor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mystical+Tutor) or most one mana tutors to put a card on top, then immediately cast it.
  • Aetherflux Reservoir (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Aetherflux+Reservoir) basically negates the lifeloss.
This card is crazy. Not every deck will use it, but every deck that does will abuse it.


Lol I mentioned this card allready but lets also think scroll rack (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Scroll+Rack). You have 7 cards in hand with 2 lands. Dump all 7 putting the 5 spells ahead of the lands, cast 5 spells using the life. Anything that helps manipulate the top of the deck will make this card bonkers. It's definately also help amanatou (SP). Way to much potential for this card. The sac 10 permanents will be hardly used. Even if you are hardly playing any type of life gain, one will still use this card. I'll tooth and nail (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tooth+and+Nail) anyday paying life. Didn't wizards learn anything with pyrexia? Using life as another resource just doesn't hinder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Hinder) anything. Surveil and scry got better with this card, bounce a permanent you own back to the top of your deck. Again way to much potential
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 02, 2019, 02:10:41 am
I think x (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) would have to be zero for Bolas's Citadel because it says you can pay life equal to its cmc and everywhere except the stack the cmc of torment of hailfire (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Torment+of+Hailfire) is 2. I, for one, am excited to play Bolas's Citadel just because it is the god pharoph's citadel. I automatically win because I control his freaking palace!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 02, 2019, 02:21:00 am
I am making a Nicol Bolas (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Nicol+Bolas) Tribal edh deck with Nicol Bolas, the Ravager (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Nicol+Bolas%2C+the+Ravager) as the commander. This new Nicol Bolas (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Nicol+Bolas), Dragon God has swayed me to finally do it.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on April 02, 2019, 02:55:10 am
Oooh oooh suggestion. How about a deck making challange edh style with this citadel. Then once the chalange is done/closed. Those who participated vote secretly by pm to a non bias party like say morgantor :) Tally the votes and announce placements. Something along those lines?
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on April 02, 2019, 03:05:45 am
Oooh oooh suggestion. How about a deck making challange edh style with this citadel. Then once the chalange is done/closed. Those who participated vote secretly by pm to a non bias party like say morgantor :) Tally the votes and announce placements. Something along those lines?

I will happily be a non-biased judge for this. I can't promise any reward other than Deckstats fame, but this could be fun.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 02, 2019, 03:22:37 am
Oooh oooh suggestion. How about a deck making challange edh style with this citadel. Then once the chalange is done/closed. Those who participated vote secretly by pm to a non bias party like say morgantor :) Tally the votes and announce placements. Something along those lines?

I will happily be a non-biased judge for this. I can't promise any reward other than Deckstats fame, but this could be fun.

No instagram fame? Aww man. I guess it could still be fun.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 03:33:39 am
What about meeee :(
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 03:34:17 am
Just Giant Growth (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Giant+Growth)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 02, 2019, 04:51:31 am
Just Giant Growth (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Giant+Growth)

You get a giant pupper, and you get a giant pupper! Everybody gets a giant pupper!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 05:26:10 am
Jiang Yanggu (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jiang+Yanggu), Wildcrafter
2G
Legendary Planeswalker - Jiang
Each creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it has "T: Add one mana of any color."

[-1]: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on April 02, 2019, 06:24:54 am
Jiang Yanggu (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jiang+Yanggu), Wildcrafter
2G
Legendary Planeswalker - Jiang
Each creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it has "T: Add one mana of any color."

[-1]: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.

Rishkar (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Rishkar%2C+Peema+Renegade)? Is that you?
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Judaspriester on April 02, 2019, 09:25:10 am
Why do u need to break the loop if everyone is dead (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dead)

Well, at least if you can't kill some1 with damage, it could be useful to be able to break the loop.
Besides that, I got told that infinite loops without a break condition result in a draw.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 12:30:18 pm
Well no because ur copy of the copy spell needs to resolve to continue the loop, so his damage triggers will resolve I believe
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 12:33:00 pm
Mowu, Loyal Companion
3G
Legendary Creature - Hound
Vigilance (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vigilance), Trample

If one or more +1/+1 counters would be put on Mowu, Loyal Companion, put that many plus one +1/+1 counters on it instead.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 04:47:28 pm
FINALLY brewing space for EDH, I've been waiting for the legends to be spoiled
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 06:37:21 pm
RIP mythicspoiler crashed
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 02, 2019, 07:43:25 pm
Maybe it's just me looking at it from "what will fit into my EDH decks" point of view, but I've only seen 1 or 2 cards that really have my interest piqued.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on April 02, 2019, 08:00:09 pm
Mythic Spoiler has been up and down for a while now.

(http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/dreadhordearcanist.jpg)

Dreadhorde Arcanist
1R
Creature - Zombie Wizard
Trample

Whenever Dreadhorde Arcanist attacks, you may cast target instant or sorcery card with converted mana cost less than or equal to Dreadhorde Arcanist's power from your graveyard without paying its mana cost. If that card would be put into your graveyard this turn, exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) it instead.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 08:02:12 pm
Yeah mostly evaluate based on cEDH
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 09:12:39 pm
Pretty strong
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 02, 2019, 10:43:45 pm
Eh. Bulk
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 12:12:59 am
Talk ab overcosted
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Firegriff on April 03, 2019, 12:57:21 am
Quote
Karn, the Great Creator (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Karn%2C+the+Great+Creator) (4) (Rare)

Activated abilities of artifacts your opponents control can't be activated

+1 Until your next turn, up to one target noncreature artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and toughness each equal its converted mana cost

-2 You may choose an artifact card you own from outside the game or in exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile), reveal that card and add it to your hand

(5)

We discussed Citadel a bit... Can we talk about how broken Karn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Karn) is?  First off, in EDH, all your opponents mana rocks: gone (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Gone).  Just do nothing.  Second off, the -2... Does not specify that it has to be legal in format.  It says ANY artifact you own, so... Blightsteel Colossus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blightsteel+Colossus) in Standard, anyone?  Or maybe just Darksteel Citadel (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Darksteel+Citadel)?  Any number of Sol Rings for EDH, you say?  Um... I think this has the ability to break every format except Pauper...
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 01:00:50 am
It comes from your sideboard, so it has to be legal and it doesn't work in EDH.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 03, 2019, 01:02:41 am
Quote
Karn, the Great Creator (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Karn%2C+the+Great+Creator) (4) (Rare)

Activated abilities of artifacts your opponents control can't be activated

+1 Until your next turn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Turn), up to one target noncreature artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and toughness each equal its converted mana cost

-2 You may choose an artifact card you own from outside the game or in exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile), reveal that card and add it to your hand

(5)

We discussed Citadel a bit... Can we talk about how broken Karn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Karn) is?  First off, in EDH, all your opponents mana rocks: gone (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Gone).  Just do nothing.  Second off, the -2... Does not specify that it has to be legal in format.  It says ANY artifact you own, so... Blightsteel Colossus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blightsteel+Colossus) in Standard, anyone?  Or maybe just Darksteel Citadel (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Darksteel+Citadel)?  Any number of Sol Rings for EDH, you say?  Um... I think this has the ability to break every format except Pauper...

In any sanctioned event "outside the game" refers to your sideboard specifically. You can't even grab something in exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) because it is technically in the game, but karn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Karn) specifically says you can target an exiled card, so you can. The original wish cards like death wish (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Death+Wish) and glistening wish did not allow that.

Jiang Yanggu (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jiang+Yanggu), Wildcrafter
2G
Legendary Planeswalker - Jiang
Each creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it has "T: Add one mana of any color."

[-1]: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.

Rishkar (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Rishkar%2C+Peema+Renegade)? Is that you?

Okay how do you link cards without saying their complete names, commas and everything? And how are you linking the war of the sparks cards? I don't think it worked yesterday when I did Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Nicol+Bolas%2C+Dragon-God)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 03, 2019, 01:05:20 am
It comes from your sideboard, so it has to be legal and it doesn't work in EDH.

Are you telling me my mastermind's acquisition (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mastermind%27s+Acquisition) is just a diabolic tutor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Diabolic+Tutor)?!?!?!?!!?! Let's not tell my playgroup. ;)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 01:40:47 am
Wyrm.. Jiang Yanggu (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jiang+Yanggu) is being linked and isnt a WAR card.  Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jiang+Yanggu%2C+Wildcrafter) is completely different and isn't being linked because WAR is not in the deckstats database yet
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 03, 2019, 03:42:03 am
FINALLY brewing space for EDH, I've been waiting for the legends to be spoiled

That Neheb, though. I want to put that into my Locust God EDH more than anything at the moment.

The way I had someone explain how he works with madness earlier is gross. Essentially you can discard all the cards you want, madness is delayed going on the stack, then you draw your new cards and get the mana. Now the madness triggers get added to the stack and can spend all that new mana. Yikes.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on April 03, 2019, 04:21:10 am
Okay how do you link cards without saying their complete names, commas and everything?

So this is very off-topic, but there's two ways. The first is to copy the url for Rishkar from Magic-forum.de, and then in the section for the name (after the link, but before the [/url] code) change it to "Rishkar".

Or you can do it my way: make your post with the full name, then edit the post and delete the ", Peema Renegade" part.

If someone wants to continue talking about tricks like this, either start a new post or send me a private message. Let's get back to spoilers.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 12:39:51 pm
"Invasive Manticore"
5R
Creature - Zombie Manticore
When Invasive Manticore enters the battlefield, amass 2. (Put two +1/+1 counters on an Army you control. If you don't control one, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token first.)

Lazotep Reaver
1B
Creature - Zombie Beast
When Lazotep Reaver enters the battlefield, amass 1. (Put a +1/+1 counter on an Army you control. If you don't control one, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token first.)

Lazotep Behemoth
4B
Creature - Zombie Hippo

Lazotep Plating
1U
Instant
amass 1. (Put a +1/+1 counter on an Army you control. If you don't control one, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token first.)

You and permanents you control gain hexproof until end of turn.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 01:01:21 pm
"Krenko, Boss of Tin Street"
2R
Legendary Creature - Krenko
Whenever Krenko, Boss of Tin Street attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on Krenko, Boss of Tin Street, then create X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) 1/1 red goblin creature tokens, where X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) is equal to Krenko, Boss of Tin Street's power.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Judaspriester on April 03, 2019, 03:30:00 pm
It comes from your sideboard, so it has to be legal and it doesn't work in EDH.

Are you telling me my mastermind's acquisition (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mastermind%27s+Acquisition) is just a diabolic tutor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Diabolic+Tutor)?!?!?!?!!?! Let's not tell my playgroup. ;)

At least for EDH, the effect is exactly the same.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 03:56:14 pm
Costs way too much mana
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 04:41:32 pm
Pt like 19
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 04:42:00 pm
Cont.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 03, 2019, 05:53:49 pm
Oh my, I am in love with Storrev, Devkarin Lich (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lich).
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 03, 2019, 08:31:35 pm
Decent
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on April 04, 2019, 12:25:01 am
Deathsprout is cool, get rid of your creature while I go get another mana producer which is a basic land. Ramp and destruction all in 1 card really is never a bad thing
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 04, 2019, 08:03:23 am
I just wish it wasn't limited to creatures, then again if it wasn't...
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 04, 2019, 12:55:37 pm
Another legend
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 04, 2019, 04:52:16 pm
Pt 20
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 04, 2019, 04:52:43 pm
Role Reversal
UUR
Sorcery
Exchange control of two target permanents that share a type.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 01:18:51 am
Pt 21
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on April 05, 2019, 01:47:59 am
Remember how Hour of Devastation (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Hour+of+Devastation) had a "Defeat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Defeat)" cycle (Jace's Defeat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jace%27s+Defeat), Chandra's Defeat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Chandra%27s+Defeat), Nissa's Defeat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Nissa%27s+Defeat), etc).

Well we've already seen Liliana's Triumph (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Liliana%27s+Triumph) and Gideon's Triumph (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Gideon%27s+Triumph). Calling it now; it's a cycle.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 01:50:57 am
dUh (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Duh). We also have Sorin's Thirst (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sorin%27s+Thirst) and Vivien's Arkbow (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vivien%27s+Arkbow) as potential separate cycles for rare walkers. Also Kaya's Ghostform (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kaya%27s+Ghostform) and Samut's Sprint (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Samut%27s+Sprint) for the uncommons. The cycles seem to be one rarity down from their respective walkers.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 03:34:03 am
Consuming Hellion (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Hellion)
2R
Creature - Hellion (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Hellion)
When Consuming Helion Enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice any number of creatures and/or planeswalkers, if you do Consuming Hellion (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Hellion) enters the battlefield with twice that many +1/+1 counters.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 12:26:59 pm
"Mizzium Tank"
1RR
Artifact - Vehicle
Trample

Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, until end of turn, Mizzium Tank gets +1/+1 and becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.

Crew 1 (Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 1 or more: This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 12:27:34 pm
Pt 22
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 05:35:37 pm
Pt 23
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 05:36:17 pm
Pt 24
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Loggiu on April 05, 2019, 05:40:06 pm
massacre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Massacre) girl...so punk card...
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Vensa4790 on April 05, 2019, 05:45:54 pm
Tomik looks like a spicy SB option to answer Dark Depths (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dark+Depths)/ Life from the Loam (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Life+from+the+Loam) decks.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 06:01:51 pm
EDH is getting tools now bois
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 06:14:27 pm
Pt 25
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 08:22:10 pm
Pt 26
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 08:22:35 pm
Cont.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 10:40:14 pm
Evolution Sage
2G
Creature - Elf Druid
Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, proliferate.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 05, 2019, 11:06:35 pm
kinda garbage
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 06, 2019, 03:09:02 pm
I think it's time to thank Soren for posting all these spoilers!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 06, 2019, 04:58:34 pm
Consuming Hellion (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Consuming+Hellion) and Massacre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Massacre) Girl seems really nice in a lot of situations.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 06, 2019, 06:18:27 pm
"Challenging Troll"
4G
Creature - Troll
Creatures you control with power 4 or greater can't be blocked by more than one creature.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 08, 2019, 06:33:03 pm
Pt. 27
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 08, 2019, 06:34:03 pm
Pt. 28
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 08, 2019, 07:25:10 pm
And more
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 08, 2019, 09:15:26 pm
"Convoke the Winged"
1W
Instant
Untap all creatures you control. Creatures you control with flying get +2/+2 until end of turn.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Firegriff on April 08, 2019, 10:18:44 pm
Feather, the Redeemed would make an awesome Heroic general...  Turn after turn of triggers!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 08, 2019, 11:28:15 pm
Pt. 29
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 09, 2019, 12:54:25 am
Greatly appreciate all of the spoilers Soren!  ;D
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 09, 2019, 07:30:11 am
Feather........ why you tempt me to make 3rd Boros EDH :o.

*furiously scrambles through all my red/white cards for cheap instants with nice buff effects*
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 09, 2019, 06:59:05 pm
Pt. 30
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 09, 2019, 06:59:54 pm
Pt. 31
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: nsyrette on April 09, 2019, 09:43:46 pm
I'm liking that Saheeli, Sublime Artificer card... so many possibilities...
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 09, 2019, 09:48:41 pm
One more
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 09, 2019, 10:50:04 pm
Liking some of these zombie buffs for my zombie deck. Curious to see what the zombie tokens look like as well.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on April 09, 2019, 11:56:51 pm
I'm liking that Saheeli, Sublime Artificer card... so many possibilities...

I am liking it as well. All of her versions including this one have been pretty good. Any of the Saheeli's have been usuable, well for me they have been. This version will be an auto include in my pre con Saheeli deck.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 10, 2019, 12:13:43 am
Pt. 31
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 10, 2019, 04:05:34 pm
Pt. 32
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 10, 2019, 07:10:45 pm
Pt. 33
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 10, 2019, 07:11:30 pm
Pt. 34
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Njoker87 on April 10, 2019, 10:47:13 pm
Is this New Daddy?

(https://i.redd.it/d7h0jr5vrhr21.jpg)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 10, 2019, 10:51:42 pm
Pt. 35
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 11, 2019, 01:37:18 am
Pt. 36
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 11, 2019, 12:37:59 pm
"Silent Submarine"
UU
Artifact - Vehicle
Whenever Silent Submarine deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker, draw a card.

Crew 2 (Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 2 or more. This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 11, 2019, 08:29:48 pm
Pt. 37
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 12, 2019, 02:50:00 am
Pt. 38
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 12, 2019, 12:30:07 pm
Pt. 39
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 12, 2019, 03:21:35 pm
Zombie Gods!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: LordDarkura on April 12, 2019, 03:36:16 pm
Quick note about Finale of Promise:

Gamespot, (The website that spoiled the card,) says this about the card: "Finale of Promise shows Niv-Mizzet being reborn through the use of the Elderspell."

For those who haven't been paying attention, Niv-Mizzet hasn't died yet and the Elderspell hasn't been cast yet, so this was probaly spoiled early.

Somebody is getting fired.

Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 12, 2019, 04:35:16 pm
Pt. 40
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: MonteTribal on April 12, 2019, 05:54:09 pm
Finale of Promise seems really good.

T1 Monastery Swiftspear (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Monastery+Swiftspear) -> 19
T2 Lightning Bolt (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lightning+Bolt) + Lava Spike (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lava+Spike) (trigger swiftspear twice) -> 10
T3 Finale of Promise for X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X)=1 - fire (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fire) bolt and spike again (trigger swiftspear  three times) -> 0

Or just living end (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Living+End) and ancestral vision (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ancestral+Vision) for RR
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 12, 2019, 06:45:05 pm
Green draw
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 12, 2019, 08:12:27 pm
Quick note about Finale of Promise:

Gamespot, (The website that spoiled the card,) says this about the card: "Finale of Promise shows Niv-Mizzet being reborn through the use of the Elderspell."

For those who haven't been paying attention, Niv-Mizzet hasn't died yet and the Elderspell hasn't been cast yet, so this was probaly spoiled early.

Oh God so he resolves the elder spell. Isnt that what he was trying to achieve? So he won. And upon resolution of the elder spell doesn't he essentially steal the power of all the other walkers in ravnica, killing them all?
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: MonteTribal on April 12, 2019, 10:33:14 pm
Quick note about Finale of Promise:

Gamespot, (The website that spoiled the card,) says this about the card: "Finale of Promise shows Niv-Mizzet being reborn through the use of the Elderspell."

For those who haven't been paying attention, Niv-Mizzet hasn't died yet and the Elderspell hasn't been cast yet, so this was probaly spoiled early.

Oh God so he resolves the elder spell. Isnt that what he was trying to achieve? So he won. And upon resolution of the elder spell doesn't he essentially steal the power of all the other walkers in ravnica, killing them all?

That seems to be the case. But the official story hasn't gotten that far yet
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 13, 2019, 02:10:19 pm
Pt. 41
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 13, 2019, 04:05:41 pm
(http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/godeternalkefnet.jpg)

Seems like it could enable lots of shenanigans. Might have missed it getting spoiled in here earlier, but yeah. Zombie Gods maybe changing peoples minds about Amass for standard.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 13, 2019, 04:08:08 pm
I think I missed it. Must've been spoiled later than usual.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 13, 2019, 08:18:58 pm
Ugin, the Ineffable
6
Legendary Planeswalker - Ugin
Colorless spells you cast cost 2 less.

[+1]: Exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) the top card of your library face down. You may look at it at any time. Create a 2/2 colorless Spirit creature token. When that token leaves the battlefield, put the exiled card into your hand.

[-3]: Destroy target permanent that is one or more colors.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 13, 2019, 09:21:34 pm
Certainly interesting. I don't play older formats, just casual and EDH, so not sure how this could affect some formats?

Seems cool for colourless EDH.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 14, 2019, 08:38:30 pm

"Blast Zone"
Land
Blast zone enters the battlefield with a charge (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Charge) counter on it.

T: Add ◊

XX, T: Put X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) charge (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Charge) counters on Blast Zone.

3, T, Sacrifice Blast Zone: Destroy all nonland permanents with converted mana cost equal to the number of charge (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Charge) counters on Blast Zone.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 14, 2019, 10:14:23 pm
Planar Celebration
5GG
Sorcery
Choose four. You can choose the same mode more than once.

*Create a 2/2 citizen creature token that has all colors.

*Put a permanent card from your graveyard to your hand.

*Proliferate.

*Gain 4 life.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 15, 2019, 05:32:52 pm
Pt. 42
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 15, 2019, 05:33:17 pm
Huatli's Raptor
GW
Creature - Dinosaur
Vigilance (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vigilance)

When Huatli's Raptor enters the battlefield, proliferate. (Choose any number of permanents and/or players, then give each another counter of each kind already there.)
Ixalan's essence never left Huatli's heart.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 15, 2019, 05:57:09 pm
Pt. 43
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 15, 2019, 06:36:18 pm
God-Eternal Oketra
3WW
Legendary Creature - Zombie God
Double Strike

Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 4/4 Zombie Warrior token with vigilance (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vigilance).

When God-Eternal Oketra dies or is put into exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) from the battlefield, you may put it into its owner's library third from the top.


"Sarkhan the Masterless"
3RR
Legendary Planeswalker - Sarkhan
Whenever a creature attack you or a planeswalker you control, each dragon you control does 1 point of damage to that creature.

[+1]: Until end of turn, each planeswalker you control becomes a 4/4 red dragon and gains flying.

[-2]: Create a 4/4 Dragon creature token with flying.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 15, 2019, 10:32:45 pm
Huatli, Heart of the Sun
2[G/W]
Legendary Planeswalker - Huatli
Each creature you control assigns combat damage equal to its toughness rather than its power.

[-3]: You gain life equal to the greatest toughness among creatures you control.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on April 16, 2019, 02:39:54 am
Elderspell is strong even for a scorcery. For 2 mana and hitting 1 planeswalker is good. Your superfriends are no more
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 16, 2019, 02:19:22 pm
God-Eternal Oketra looks beast, hate that it's white though as I don't have any creature heavy white decks.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 16, 2019, 05:01:05 pm
Seems sorta op
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 16, 2019, 07:40:44 pm
Simic Hydra Tribal is coming
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on April 16, 2019, 11:10:14 pm
Casualties of War I think will work much better than Windgrace's Judgment (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Windgrace%27s+Judgment) not sure but however cost 1 more mana but choosing whatever targets instead of individual targets from every opponent just seems much better to me
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 16, 2019, 11:19:51 pm
Casualties of War I think will work much better than Windgrace's Judgment (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Windgrace%27s+Judgment) not sure but however cost 1 more mana but choosing whatever targets instead of individual targets from every opponent just seems much better to me

Hmm. I would compare it more to decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Devastate) than windgrace's judgement. I love decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Decimate) because I can destroy problematic cards on across the board, or wreck an opponent that is too far ahead, and this seems like just a more expensive decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Decimate) if there arent any walkers on the field. Perhaps once war of the spark is released we'll know for sure how many walkers there are that see legitimate play and maybe it'll be worth it. I would play decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Decimate) over casualties of war, but in specifically golgari, I do like it more than windgrace's judgement.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: robort on April 17, 2019, 12:05:47 am
Wrym,

If I am reading casualties of war correctly. It says choose one or more. More says to me that it is all of them. An artifact, creature, enchantment, land and a planeswalker to destroy all for 6 mana. 5 targets for 6 mana isn't to shabby especially in my EDH meta where there is more than likely one of my opponents has those targets to destroy. LOL guess it is just my meta/playgroups I play in. They tend to look for the biggest optimizational play they can make instead of also focusing on slowing down the other opponents with multiple choice removal.

Other than that, great job Sorin with posting with the spoilers keep up the great work
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Slappy T-Rex on April 17, 2019, 12:15:46 am
It reminds me a lot of Decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Decimate). It's great because you can spread the removal around and it can be pretty devastating if you decide to direct it all at one player. If you cast it early it can send someone back so far that they may never recover (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Recover).

Wyrm, was that the card you meant to compare it too?
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 17, 2019, 12:56:00 am
It reminds me a lot of Decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Decimate). It's great because you can spread the removal around and it can be pretty devastating if you decide to direct it all at one player. If you cast it early it can send someone back so far that they may never recover (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Recover).

Wyrm, was that the card you meant to compare it too?

Hahaha yes that is what I meant. I'll fix my post. Thanks!!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 17, 2019, 06:46:56 am
I wonder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wonder) if Finale Of Revelation (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Revelation) is worth making space for in The Locust God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Locust+God)? It has an Elixir Of Immortality (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Elixir+of+Immortality) effect if X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) = 10+, but is sorcery speed. Hmm.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 17, 2019, 06:48:24 am
Finale Of Eternity was a late spoiler today it would seem.

Seems pretty good!
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 17, 2019, 10:57:14 am
I wonder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wonder) if Finale Of Revelation (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Revelation) is worth making space for in The Locust God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Locust+God)? It has an Elixir Of Immortality (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Elixir+of+Immortality) effect if X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) = 10+, but is sorcery speed. Hmm.

That is exactly what I was thinking. I run blue sun's zenith (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blue+Sun%27s+Zenith) in my The Locust God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Locust+God) deck, and I will admit, i have never actually needed to use it. It usually get's wheeled (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wheel+of+Fortune) away because I would rather wheel twice for 10+ cards for around 5-7 mana depending on the wheel effects used, and create that many insects than sink that 7 mana into blue sun's zenith (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blue+Sun%27s+Zenith) for 4 cards, even at instant speed. And I honestly don't think the timetwister (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Timetwister) effect is enough to make it worth it. There are other things I would rather do with my 12 mana.

Edit: I just reread the card, and I forgot about the untap 5 lands clause if x (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) is 10 or more. This still doesn't change my opinion about the card. I can several times of me having 12 mana, and each time I won that turn. I don't see Finale of Revelation (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Revelation) winning me the game for 12 mana. But I mean I guess it warrants play testing, so I will definitely proxy it in for the next time I play.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 12:35:10 pm
Pt. 43
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Judaspriester on April 17, 2019, 02:12:29 pm
It reminds me a lot of Decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Decimate). It's great because you can spread the removal around and it can be pretty devastating if you decide to direct it all at one player. If you cast it early it can send someone back so far that they may never recover (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Recover).

Wyrm, was that the card you meant to compare it too?

I think its a more expensive, but better version of decimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Decimate) since you aren't forced to destroy a target of every type. So if you're the only 1 with Enchantments, you don't need to destroy 1 of them.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 04:52:52 pm
Leaks
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 04:54:21 pm
Sorry guys I'll have to post screenshots 1 at a time
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 04:58:06 pm
Trying to reduce the file sizes
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 04:58:36 pm
Leaks continued
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 04:59:42 pm
More
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 05:13:56 pm
And now they're spoiled 🤧 RIP Reddit
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 06:50:04 pm
Pt. 44
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 09:30:16 pm
Heartfelt Redemption
2RW
Instant
Discard all the cards in your hand. Draw the same amount of cards discarded this way plus one. Then gain life equal to the number of cards in your hand.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 17, 2019, 10:19:43 pm
Oof
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 18, 2019, 05:02:20 am
Finale Of Glory (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Finale+of+Glory), woof. Pull that in your draft and basically try to stay survive to cast it.

At first I read it as making Angels INSTEAD of Soldiers if X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X) = 10+. Nope, it's make BOTH equal to X (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=X). Good lord. I was thinking of a Soldier (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Soldier) + Angel (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Angel) deck recently with the Elspeth walkers and things like Divine Visitation (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Divine+Visitation) and Cathars' Crusade (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Cathars%27+Crusade). Finale Of Glory (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Finale+of+Glory) is definitely making the hamster wheel in my head spin for this deck.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 12:24:11 pm
Pt. 45
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 01:33:45 pm
God-Eternal Oketra (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=God-Eternal+Oketra)
3WW
Legendary Creature - Zombie God
Double Strike

Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 4/4 black Zombie Warrior token with vigilance (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vigilance).

When God-Eternal Oketra (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=God-Eternal+Oketra) dies or is put into exile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Exile) from the battlefield, you may put it into its owner's library third from the top.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Njoker87 on April 18, 2019, 02:36:11 pm
English Oketra

(https://i.redd.it/t7gybuw1zzs21.jpg)
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 18, 2019, 02:49:52 pm
That card will do some work in a few decks of mine...if only I had a creature heavy white deck.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Judaspriester on April 18, 2019, 03:28:15 pm
That card will do some work in a few decks of mine...if only I had a creature heavy white deck.

I already thinking about adding her into my Najeela warrior tribe deck.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: WWolfe on April 18, 2019, 03:36:57 pm
That card will do some work in a few decks of mine...if only I had a creature heavy white deck.

I already thinking about adding her into my Najeela warrior tribe deck.

That won't be bad. I just remembered I do have a creature heavy Edgar deck...
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 04:43:44 pm
Pt. 46
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 04:48:30 pm
Pt. 47
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 05:26:05 pm
Pt. 48
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 05:26:45 pm
Pt. 49
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 18, 2019, 06:30:38 pm
So from my understanding, Gideon gave his indestructibility (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Indestructibility) aura to Liliana so she could survive breaking (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Breaking) her pact with bolas because he knew that the gatewatch needed her to have a chance to win. So gideon sacrifices himself for Liliana, and ultimately so good can triumph.
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 07:11:02 pm
Pt. 50
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 18, 2019, 11:13:05 pm
Come on guys. This is sad. Gideon has died. Heartwarming redemption.

Heliod (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Heliod%2C+God+of+the+Sun), came to Kytheon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kytheon%2C+Hero+of+Akros), to defeat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Defeat) one of Erebos's (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Erebos%2C+God+of+the+Dead) titans. Kytheon accepted, and he and his allies went to go fight for their Sun God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Heliod%2C+God+of+the+Sun). They were able to defeat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Defeat) their foe, but Kytheon got cocky and tried to defeat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Defeat) Erebos too. All of his friends/allies died, causing his spark to ignite. He then spent the rest of his life trying to right that wrong by being who we all know and love. Honest, noble, honorably, (Eddard Stark). He was what we all aspire to be. He sacrifices himself for the most beautiful plansewalker in MTG (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Liliana+of+the+Veil). Not because they are besties, but because he knows it has to be done for the good of Ravnica and the rest of the multiverse. It was either die for Liliana, or die from the elder spell. Either way he died. (Much like how Sean Bean died playing both Eddard Stark AND Boromir. So sad.) Some people are destined to die.

I think we can all agree he accomplished his goal. He did right his wrong.

"Kytheon had known war every day of his life. Now he finally new peace."

*Pulls out handkerchief*
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 11:52:38 pm
Pt. 51
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Soren841 on April 18, 2019, 11:53:02 pm
And one more
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: HowlingLotus on April 19, 2019, 03:30:41 am
While not in flavour, I wonder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wonder) if the new Oketra would be worth running in Arcades EDH. Counting Arcades I have 35 creatures in the deck and it isn't hard to consistently have creatures on the board once Arcades comes down and gets his draw engine on.

Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: Red_Wyrm on April 21, 2019, 05:46:59 am
Have we finally got the entire set?
Title: Re: WAR Spoilers
Post by: zacem on April 23, 2019, 08:14:47 pm
I would like to thank Soren. You Rock!