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Title: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Nils on March 04, 2019, 12:43:47 am
I have just made some updates to how we handle card grouping and main deck subsections (card categories) in our deckbuilder. The idea is to make the grouping and regrouping of cards in the main deck a bit more intuitive and also improve the underlying code.

In practice, everything should continue to work as it used to except there are some additional features. However, since these changes are relatively extensive you may encounter some bugs. If you do, please let me know here, on Twitter or via direct message.

The main difference to before is that the "card grouping" setting in the deckbuilder now only affects how your deck is displayed, not how it is saved internally. This means that the deckbuilder will no longer remove your custom subsections when you choose to group your deck in some way.

For example, if you put some cards in a subsection called "Awesome cards" but then select "Group by color" when saving your deck, the old system would have removed that subsection and just put all the cards together in the main deck. With the new system, when you edit your deck later, you can still see your original custom subsections. You can also always choose to view your deck grouped by the custom subsections using the View menu.

In addition, I have also made some further changes to make the deckbuilder easier to use:
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Zombo on March 04, 2019, 12:08:44 pm
I took a quick look and the results look awesome! Great work!
I also tested the "Remove all subsections" button and it works. On the deck I tested, I had no subsections yesterday, so it seems like you changes introduced the subsections in the first place. Nice.

Now could you also add a button, to add subsections for decks that only consist of the main section? Like in My EDH deck, I really like the "Type (extended)" and would like to switch to that grouping, so I will not only see it in the Details overview?
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Nils on March 06, 2019, 11:56:53 pm
I took a quick look and the results look awesome! Great work!
I also tested the "Remove all subsections" button and it works. On the deck I tested, I had no subsections yesterday, so it seems like you changes introduced the subsections in the first place. Nice.

Now could you also add a button, to add subsections for decks that only consist of the main section? Like in My EDH deck, I really like the "Type (extended)" and would like to switch to that grouping, so I will not only see it in the Details overview?
Thank you for letting me know!

Regarding your suggestion - do you mean you would also like to see that grouping in the deckbuilder at the bottom, not just in the Overview/Details tabs?
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: dylanreid on March 08, 2019, 05:37:21 pm
Not sure if this is the right place to post a bug (or at least unexpected functionality), but: when I group by Color it will put some Lands under Multicolor. For example, I would expect to see a Baleful Strix (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Baleful+Strix) under Multicolor (which I do) and a Polluted Delta (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Polluted+Delta) under Lands (which I do); however Watery Grave (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Watery+Grave) is under Multicolor instead of Lands which is certainly unexpected.

Thanks for all the hard work!
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Soren841 on March 08, 2019, 06:53:39 pm
It's because the color identity of Watery Grave (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Watery+Grave) is UB
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: dylanreid on March 08, 2019, 08:24:48 pm
Seems plausible, but why isn't something like Ancient Tomb (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ancient+Tomb) under the Colorless section then? Why even have a "Lands" section when sorting by Color?
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: trinketstone on March 09, 2019, 05:19:54 pm
I really like it!
Can I suggest for a future update to include a filter for the EDH recommendations, where you can filter out expensive or cheap upgrades? I don't know how hard that would be, but EDHREC does have a few filters like that built in, so the coding might not be too severe? Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Soren841 on March 09, 2019, 05:25:22 pm
Because there isn't a colorless color identity. Tomb just has no color identity
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: dylanreid on March 11, 2019, 05:55:43 pm
Because there isn't a colorless color identity. Tomb just has no color identity

Then why is "Colorless" a category when sorting by Color? Probably "Land" (a Card Type, not a Color) should be placed into the Colorless category.
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Soren841 on March 11, 2019, 05:59:02 pm
It just be like that sometimes. Welcome to Magic.
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: dylanreid on March 11, 2019, 06:03:39 pm
It just be like that sometimes. Welcome to Magic.

Thanks for being condescending, just trying to offer an opinion on unexpected behavior.
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Soren841 on March 11, 2019, 06:04:52 pm
You have to actively attempt to be offended if you found that condescending
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: kytmagic on March 11, 2019, 07:35:41 pm
Apologies if this has been requested but for the standard types of Lands, Spells and Creatures, could there be an option in the profile to maybe select our preferred order?

Right now it goes Lands -> Spells -> Creatures.
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: vbpatel88 on November 08, 2019, 01:12:11 am
Big fan of the changes. One of the things I was looking for would be being able to place cards in multiple groups.

More like a tag on cards rather than subsections perhaps. That way if a card can count as both Card Draw and Removal, I'm not having to pick one category and then add an extra of the other because the ratios were seemingly off
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Chandrahas on January 30, 2020, 03:28:25 pm
Hi Nils, nice work,

I have a suggestion. When I have searched for a certain deck and checked it out and then press on the back button to go to the list of decks that came out of the search based on my criteria, I return to a blanc search. So if i would like to check out another deck from the same search i will have to do the search again. It seems to me that performing the exact same search again will only cost server performance whichs should not have to if the initial search result would be accesable again. Maybe the search result is stored on the server and I just don't know. Do you Understand?

Kind regards
Chandrahas
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: WizardSpartan on January 30, 2020, 04:20:08 pm
I like the changes but I have one suggestion. There is an option to select all cards or deselect all cards, but is could you add a button to select all cards not in a user-created subsection? I use the EDHRec copy paste feature by choosing all the lands I want in EDHRec, then i copy and paste into the deck using the "paste/upload a decklist", then I create a section for lands and move them all into that section (repeat for ramp, card draw, etc.). Rather than select each individual card in the main section, then move to the desired subsection, could you just create a button that only selects cards in the main section?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Nils on February 02, 2020, 09:43:16 pm
Great suggestion - I am working on some improvements to the deckbuilder right now and will try to add such a feature.
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Amets on November 06, 2021, 03:50:53 pm
I took a quick look and the results look awesome! Great work!
I also tested the "Remove all subsections" button and it works. On the deck I tested, I had no subsections yesterday, so it seems like you changes introduced the subsections in the first place. Nice.

Now could you also add a button, to add subsections for decks that only consist of the main section? Like in My EDH deck, I really like the "Type (extended)" and would like to switch to that grouping, so I will not only see it in the Details overview?
Thank you for letting me know!

Regarding your suggestion - do you mean you would also like to see that grouping in the deckbuilder at the bottom, not just in the Overview/Details tabs?
Not the original poster, but I came here with a similar issue and would find that really helpful - I've had to recreate the Type (extended) subsections by hand since I find it hard to use the deckbuilder without the cards being split up in any way. I'd find having the grouping setting also apply to the deckbuilder really helpful!
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Klaymor on November 12, 2021, 02:18:56 am
Hello Deckstats!
First time post, but long time user. Question: Is there a way to add subsections to Sideboard and Maybeboard?
I find that would help immensely with Brewing. Sometimes your fishing a deck and you have 3 slots but 9 cards for a specific role, lets say Token Makers.
Having the option to hot swap cards between Main/Side board subsections would keep things a bit cleaner, At least for me! Not to mention your Maybe board gets so saucy with the updating that goes on through a brew. Any thoughts?

Perhaps I need to be neater, or I am missing exciting functionality. Just putting it out there!
Title: Re: Deckbuilder Update: Card grouping and main deck subsection improvements
Post by: Landale on November 12, 2021, 04:08:35 am
Hello Deckstats!
First time post, but long time user. Question: Is there a way to add subsections to Sideboard and Maybeboard?
I find that would help immensely with Brewing. Sometimes your fishing a deck and you have 3 slots but 9 cards for a specific role, lets say Token Makers.
Having the option to hot swap cards between Main/Side board subsections would keep things a bit cleaner, At least for me! Not to mention your Maybe board gets so saucy with the updating that goes on through a brew. Any thoughts?

Perhaps I need to be neater, or I am missing exciting functionality. Just putting it out there!
I've not noticed a way to add subsections to those, however you can put notes on the cards. This also helps with the main portions of the deck where a card might fit into multiple roles. For example you'd obviously put Commander's Sphere (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Commander%27s+Sphere) in a Ramp section, but you could put a note on it that it's also a Draw card.