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English-language Forums => About Deckstats => Topic started by: Nils on July 28, 2019, 10:28:10 pm
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Over the last few weeks I have been working on some improvements to our deckbuilder. If you are following @deckstats on Twitter (https://twitter.com/deckstats) or have joined our Discord (https://discord.gg/hUAHUrv) you may have already seen a preview of these. If not, please have a look here (https://twitter.com/deckstats/status/1155162066732421122).
My aim with these updates has been to make deckbuilding on deckstats even easier and faster than before, with a particular focus on mobile and tablet users. The main changes are:
- New instant mana curve, which updates as you add cards to the deck
- Card database and decklist are always visible and can be scrolled independently - no more scrolling back and forth.
- More cards are now displayed by default in the card database
- Several bugfixes and additional layout improvements, especially on mobile
- New help text to introduce new users to the deckbuilder
All of these changes are now active - I hope you enjoy them!
Since this involved some large code changes you may encounter some bugs that I haven't caught yet over the next few days. Please post here or contact me directly if you notice any problems.
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I definitely like being able to see my deck and the search bar at the same time, but I’ve been having problems on mobile. When I’m in direct entry mode it works fine, but when searching the card database, the option to switch between entry modes covers the search bar. Not only does it make it impossible to see what I’m typing, it is also very difficult to click into the search bar in the first place. Had this issue on Chrome and Safari, in portrait and landscape mode, on an iPhone 8.
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Thank you for letting me know about this. This is very complicated to debug unfortunately because it only seems to occur on the device itself, not in any of the browsers I can easily test in. I will try my best to get this fixed ASAP though.
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Update: I *think* I managed to find a workaround. I still don't know what's actually causing this but it should be fixed for now. Please have a look and let me know if you're still having issues with it.
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It’s fixed! Keep up the great work!
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a way to search decks based on percentage of cards you own, or filter lists of decks based on percentage of owned cards would help tremendously.
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I'm gonna be honest I really hate the most recent updates to the mobile deckbuilder. Could you make it so I can go back to how it was please..
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can you add a way to change the deck builder back
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@Darthkev131313: This is more of a feature request than a question about the deck builder. That said, this is actually something that I have been working on. Once these updates are completed it's the next big thing on my list.
@Soren841, @GamerAwsome101: What specifically do you not like about it? What do you miss? I won't be able to bring the old version back but I can look into making changes to make the new one work for you!
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I hate how it's half and half.. like the screen is divided up
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I have just made a few more improvements to the deckbuilder. In particular, you can now scroll up again rather than having to click Close. This should be particularly handy if you are working on a deck and want to scroll back and forth between the deck and the deckbuilder.
Please let me know if there are any more issues.
Soren841, do you mean on mobile or on desktop?
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Mobile. I guess I don't like scrolling in the deckbuilder and card search to be separate. Like I can scroll the whole page, but the card search and the actual deckbuilder where all the cards go both scroll separately as well and it's super annoying.
The old deckbuilder felt like one thing with the cards underneath the cars search. This one feels really.. idk, separated? Fragmented maybe? It feels like a card search above a deckbuilder and they don't fit together nicely on mobile anymore
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Err.. am I just stupid or is there no option anymore to add custom sections in the interactive builder?
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Not a big fan if the new deck editor in this version. It was better before to be able to collapse the "Card Database" window. I typically know what im looking for, and only use the "Direct Card Entry" feature. Before we could collapse the windows we were not using, and now we are forced to view the database, which takes up half the screen, and is difficult to pan down between the two panes. I find it very awkward.
As of now, only the "Mana Curve" window is collapsible (which i like, to keep tabs on where I'm at.
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@Judaspriester: The option should still be there under the "Main" section, same as before. You may have to scroll the decklist down a bit to see it?
@Grimjack: So you would like to be able to collapse the card database window again? That should be easy to add back in but there would just be a lot of empty space on the left then.
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When the old version wasn't side-by-side collapsing it worked great, especially on small device. At least if it were collapsible it would be easier to hover over the 'void (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Void)' space to scroll up and down. the card database is so big it blocks everything. the older version just worked better for they way i uploaded and developed decks
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What kind of device do you use? On a mobile device the card database will actually disappear (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Disappear) when you click on Direct Card Entry, so it will look like this:
(https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48079.0;attach=9425;image)
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Agree. It looks like that and works great on an iPhone.
Working on my tablet is less easy. Orienting the tablet landscape gives it a side by side but scrolling down between the two columns is hard when database is expanded. The little sliver of dark gray between the panes is hard to pinpoint. If it’s collapsed I have an easier time scrolling down because there is more negative space to touch. (I’m describing it poorly)
I play edh exclusively so my deck lists are lengthy and I know the card when I input them. Having a huge database window may be useful for some, but I never ever access it. I’d prefer to hide it if I could.
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Oh I see, that makes sense! I have now made the card database collapsible again. Please let me know whether that works for you now.
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Hey, :)
I play 99% Highlander and my decks are often completly selfconstructed.
I have also problems with the new deckbuilding system. I often at the PC for that, so my Monitor is not that small. But i have the feeling, I see not many as before.
The Search site has to much Place for me in this Visual System, i would like it to more decent.
I want to see my deck, not the thousand Cards i could search. I use Scryfall for that.
All in all is the deckbuilding smooth.
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@Judaspriester: The option should still be there under the "Main" section, same as before. You may have to scroll the decklist down a bit to see it?
@Grimjack: So you would like to be able to collapse the card database window again? That should be easy to add back in but there would just be a lot of empty space on the left then.
Allright, found it. ty.
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One more update: I have now also added buttons to the page that let you jump (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jump) up and down between the deckbuilder and the deck list with a single click. That should make it even easier to go back and forth between the deck statistics and the deckbuilder, especially on tablets and phones.
@Rubeus: I don't think the number of cards you can see should have changed much between the old and the new version but I will try to improve this. The spacing between card names could probably be adjusted slightly.
@Judaspriester: Great!
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Now that the card search results scroll (which I dislike, for what it's worth), if you've scrolled down in the results and add a card, it scrolls back up to the top. Can this not happen please? Or better yet go back to how it was?
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thats great nils - thanks
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@Soren841: Sorry about that, I didn't realize that was happening! Fixed now.
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Could you revert just the mobile deckbuilder back to the old version pretty please :(
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Could you revert just the mobile deckbuilder back to the old version pretty please :(
That's just not possible unfortunately. The deckbuilder is a complex piece of software and it's not feasible to maintain two separate versions.
But as I said - if you have concrete suggestions for adjustments that would make people's lifes easier (like not scrolling back up after adding a card) I am happy to make those changes.
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What if instead it's three different tabs that you can open and close? The card entry and database would be tab 1, the decklist would be tab 2, and the bar that has the analyse button would be tab 3. You could just close the tabs when you're not using them, so scrolling would be easier. Would this help?
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I just don't want them scrolling separately I want it to be one big thing that scrolls
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Soren841, could you maybe explain a bit more why you would want it to work like that? How would you actually use this page?
The reason I made the split page was because I felt it was very annoying to build a deck if you have to scroll back and forth between the deck list and the card database all the time. That's why I thought it would be best to have both of them visible all the time, even if that means you have to do a bit more scrolling.
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Because I can't see the whole thing at once I can't see my whole deck or the whole card search. And when I go to scroll like I've always done, it keeps screwing me up because they're separate now.
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One more update: If you want to have more space for your deck list you can now tap on the Card Database / Direct Card Entry tabs a second time to hide them completely.
Soren841, which device are you using? Could you maybe send me a screenshot?
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Samsung Galaxy Note 8
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I'm not sure what happened but I flat out can't use the deck builder at all [well, to edit at least]. Went to work on one of my decks and the deck list won't load all of the way on the screen but each time I attempt to, it tries to double up every card in the deck. My Meren deck currently as saved shows 200 cards in it [2 copies of everything] and on a new load attempt for editing, the count at the bottom reads 400 but the deck list won't show up [wheel keeps on spinning...]
Any suggestions on how to fix?
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I am having the same problem. I have spent most of the day looking for a setting that would make it work. looks like I am not the only one.
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Xaarvaxus and drewwindsor, I'm sorry to hear that! Could you please tell me which device and browser you are using?
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I have just fixed a bug that may have been preventing the deckbuilder from working in Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer. I have also fixed two other issues that may have been causing problems in other browsers under certain circumstances. If you were experience any problems please give it another try now.
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I have just fixed a bug that may have been preventing the deckbuilder from working in Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer. I have also fixed two other issues that may have been causing problems in other browsers under certain circumstances. If you were experience any problems please give it another try now.
This craptastic laptop that I'm using has Edge and your fix seems to have worked. Decklist loaded fine and I was able to delete the extra copies it was adding. Thank you!!!
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Xaarvaxus and drewwindsor, I'm sorry to hear that! Could you please tell me which device and browser you are using?
I am using a very new (1 month old) HP with windows using Microsoft edge as well. I will go try It now to see if works for me as well.
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I have just fixed a bug that may have been preventing the deckbuilder from working in Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer. I have also fixed two other issues that may have been causing problems in other browsers under certain circumstances. If you were experience any problems please give it another try now.
ahhhh excellent. It is working. that is awesome. thank you so much Nils. I am very appreciative.
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After the update I’ve noticed a navigation issue with Deck Builder. I use a MacBook Pro with the Safari browser. It seems the scroll bar for the ‘Your Deck’ side (right) is non-existent. Obviously this makes building a deck very difficult after you add 15+ different cards.
I haven't seen any mention of this after a quick skim through the forum. If this was mentioned and is being addressed my apologies. A fix for this issue would be greatly appreciated.
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@Xaarvaxus/drewwindsor: I'm happy to hear this is working now!
@TheBread: That's very odd. First I have heard of this problem at least. Could you maybe send me a screenshot? And can you still scroll the list using two fingers on the touchpad, or is that broken as well?
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The two finger scroll only works for the 'Card Database' section (left side) not for the 'Your Deck' section. The only scroll bar that appears on the right side of the screen is for the entire website page. The page will move up and down but anything inside the 'Your Deck' section won't move (even if you click inside that box and then scroll).
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Strange - I will have to dig up a Macbook to do some testing on this. Any chance you could use something like Firefox in the meantime?
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@Nils i don't like the 1 to 50 cards seen i liked it better with the 1 to 10
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Yes that's part of my issue
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Whenever I add a new subsection or anything, it scrolls all the way back to the top of the page
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I think this is the right thread for this. If not, I apologize.
On the deckbuilder page, the analyze deck page is just in a very inconvenient spot. I have to unlock my taskbar and move my taskbar so it is not covering up the button.
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So just a couple of suggestions on the new deck builder:
1) Would you be able to add cell outlines to the card database? I have larger monitors (27" and 24") and it can be hard to track line information across that distance. I think giving the database a more spreadsheet-like appearance would help with that.
2) Would it be possible to make the columns in the card database have an adjustable width? Again, I have larger monitors and it can be hard to track one line instance across half the monitor.
3) This one is more of a personal nitpick, but would you be able to add in the ability to create new sections in the actual deck builder? Not the subsections, which are fine, I just don't like having my custom headers under the control of the "Main" section.
And the last one 4) Would you be able to replicate the subsection creation under the maybeboard? I think it would greatly help in organizing the cards people are thinking about putting into their decks.
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On the deckbuilder page, the analyze deck page is just in a very inconvenient spot. I have to unlock my taskbar and move my taskbar so it is not covering up the button.
That's odd, it should never overlap your taskbar. Can you please take a screenshot? Which browser/device are you using?
1) Would you be able to add cell outlines to the card database? I have larger monitors (27" and 24") and it can be hard to track line information across that distance. I think giving the database a more spreadsheet-like appearance would help with that.
2) Would it be possible to make the columns in the card database have an adjustable width? Again, I have larger monitors and it can be hard to track one line instance across half the monitor.
3) This one is more of a personal nitpick, but would you be able to add in the ability to create new sections in the actual deck builder? Not the subsections, which are fine, I just don't like having my custom headers under the control of the "Main" section.
And the last one 4) Would you be able to replicate the subsection creation under the maybeboard? I think it would greatly help in organizing the cards people are thinking about putting into their decks.
What resolution are you using? It sounds like you have a lot of empty space in the deckbuilder UI that you don't actually need. Would it help if I simply limited the width of the deckbuilder so that it doesn't take up the full width if you monitor is very wide?
I'll have a think about the sections but this would require some relatively complicated technical changes.
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What resolution are you using? It sounds like you have a lot of empty space in the deckbuilder UI that you don't actually need. Would it help if I simply limited the width of the deckbuilder so that it doesn't take up the full width if you monitor is very wide?
I'll have a think about the sections but this would require some relatively complicated technical changes.
I do have a lot of empty space. My monitor resolutions are 2560x1440 (2k) on the 27" and 1920x1200 (1080p) on the 24". The limiting of width does sound like it would solve my issue, yes! Tyvm for the quick reply as well!
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@Furry Garbage I have now updated the deckbuilder so that it won't fill your entire screen if it's very wide. Could you please give it another try and let me know what you think?
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@Furry Garbage I have now updated the deckbuilder so that it won't fill your entire screen if it's very wide. Could you please give it another try and let me know what you think?
I'm on WIN7 and latest build of Chrome: the deckbuilder keeps adjusting width all the time and it's a little bit difficult to keep track of things. This happens when I search for cards or add them to the deck or even when I close the dropdown-subsections (Main, Maybeboard etc) in the builder. Maybe it should read the window width once and stick to that instead of changing all the time?
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You're right, there is something odd going on there. I'll disable this change for now and investigate further.
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Update: I have now made some further changes that should limit the width of the deckbuilder without letting the page jump (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jump) around. Cards will now also be highlighted as you move your mouse over the table, which should also make it more readable.
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A quick suggestion which I hope wouldn't be too hard to implement.
Currently it's possible to leave comments on specific cards and/or on the deck as a whole; would it be possible to add the option of leaving comments on custom sections instead? I know the comments would then no longer be visible when someone uses a different view, but I figure when custom sections are being used being able to comment on the sections directly might help clarify the reasoning behind the partitioning
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Could you please add Historic as an option for formats in the deckbuilder tool. I'm not sure if this is already in the works or not, but it would be a great help for myself and I'm thinking many others as well.
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I can't sort my deck by set.
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Not sure what's going on but trying different combinations including only a color checked I get no results all the time with a small 3k collection of various cards. Are there requirements for OS, Browser, etc... that need to be met? I get no errors, it just processes for like 20 seconds and gives back no decks found.
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A quick suggestion which I hope wouldn't be too hard to implement.
Currently it's possible to leave comments on specific cards and/or on the deck as a whole; would it be possible to add the option of leaving comments on custom sections instead? I know the comments would then no longer be visible when someone uses a different view, but I figure when custom sections are being used being able to comment on the sections directly might help clarify the reasoning behind the partitioning
I can't sort my deck by set.
I have added both of these things to my to do list, will try to add them soon!
Could you please add Historic as an option for formats in the deckbuilder tool. I'm not sure if this is already in the works or not, but it would be a great help for myself and I'm thinking many others as well.
I forgot to post here but this has been available for a few weeks now.
Not sure what's going on but trying different combinations including only a color checked I get no results all the time with a small 3k collection of various cards. Are there requirements for OS, Browser, etc... that need to be met? I get no errors, it just processes for like 20 seconds and gives back no decks found.
Is this about the deck tutor? Did you mean to post here? https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php/topic,49594.0.html
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Was there an update recently that broke some features? The down arrow that allows us to immediately move a card to our sideboard is now gone (see attachment). That saved me a lot of time; now, I have to click-drag and scroll the card past my massive 100-card Commander list, before I can release it onto my sideboard or maybeboard.
Also, the black comment button letting us leave comments on cards is also gone. I now have to double-click the card entry and open the comment drop-down button just to enable the comment field, which means extra clicking for every card with a blank comment entry. I do a lot of comments on my cards, so this will add a lot more time to my deckbuilding if I'm having to enable the comment field on every card.
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Thank you for your feedback ReMeDy_III - I am working on updating the deck builder UI right now. Both the comment button and the move button will be making a comeback soon, along with some other improvements! :)
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Thanks, the new Feb 2020 update has been awesome! Much improved and addresses all my concerns! Thanks!
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Is there any way to add Tokens to lists (either decks or ‘Card list’ types)? They can be added to our Collection so the site clearly can handle them, but I’ve been unable to add them to any list unfortunately
(I just want to add the relevant tokens to my Seb McKinnon art list...)
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You can already add tokens to decklists. Just type the token name in direct card entry and hit enter. Then select which set you want the token to be from. This is useful for when you want to distinguish between the different types of assassins.
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Oh I see, that makes sense! I have now made the card database collapsible again. Please let me know whether that works for you now.
Hi, relatively new to the site, but I saw this comment and I have been going crazy trying to figure out how to collapse the card database in the deckbuilder. I'm on PC, so wondering if this is just a mobile option? If not, can someone please point out to me how to minimize the card database? Thanks!
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Hi, relatively new to the site, but I saw this comment and I have been going crazy trying to figure out how to collapse the card database in the deckbuilder. I'm on PC, so wondering if this is just a mobile option? If not, can someone please point out to me how to minimize the card database? Thanks!
Hi - this is not actually possible in the current version of the deckbuilder. Why are you trying to minimize the card database? Maybe we can find another solution instead.
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Hello. I'm new here and not sure if this is the right place but at first i wanted to say THANK YOU for this awesome website and deckbuilding toolkit. I really like it and the most important feature for me is the "anti timeout function" via refreshing the session without losing your build. Now a question / request / idea for the future:
> i'm that kind of player who likes to organize his deck in some sub categories like:
01 cmd
10 ramp
10 draw
37 lands (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Lands)
10 removal / wipe
...and so on.
But.. everytime i'm starting a new deck, i have to type in those categories again. Would be very very helpful if you could save those as a ... "template" or so?
Anyway, thanks for this cool site!
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Hello. I'm new here and not sure if this is the right place but at first i wanted to say THANK YOU for this awesome website and deckbuilding toolkit. I really like it and the most important feature for me is the "anti timeout function" via refreshing the session without losing your build. Now a question / request / idea for the future:
> i'm that kind of player who likes to organize his deck in some sub categories like:
01 cmd
10 ramp
10 draw
37 lands (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Lands)
10 removal / wipe
...and so on.
But.. everytime i'm starting a new deck, i have to type in those categories again. Would be very very helpful if you could save those as a ... "template" or so?
Anyway, thanks for this cool site!
This would be super, super useful. I also organize my EDH decks in very similar categories, and while I don't necessarily mind retyping the 10 or so sections I use to split up each of my EDH decks, it would be nice if I could set up a template as a basis.
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I have now added this! See here for details: https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php/topic,56039.msg165019.html#msg165019
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I have now added this! See here for details: https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php/topic,56039.msg165019.html#msg165019
You, sir, are my personal hero. Totally made my.. month. Thank you very much! 12/10
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I have now added this! See here for details: https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php/topic,56039.msg165019.html#msg165019
Yesssssssss, thank you! Absolutely fantastic!
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Two Deckbuilder updates today:
You can now make sure the card database always shows you the cheapest printing for a card, even if it's not the most recent one. Just click on the Filter button and then tick the box at the bottom.
And when filtering by CMC or price you can now use operators such as <=2 or >=3.
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Hi, relatively new to the site, but I saw this comment and I have been going crazy trying to figure out how to collapse the card database in the deckbuilder. I'm on PC, so wondering if this is just a mobile option? If not, can someone please point out to me how to minimize the card database? Thanks!
Hi - this is not actually possible in the current version of the deckbuilder. Why are you trying to minimize the card database? Maybe we can find another solution instead.
First, let me join the voices here in saying that I love this site, and enjoy using the deckbuilder quite a bit. (I was logged out of the site, so I just got your message...apologies for the delay).
Anyway, so whenever I'm putting together a deck, and I don't necessarily know what I'm looking for, I'll go through and throw a ton of stuff in the 'maybe' board (which was a big reason I started using your site...love this). Once I've done that, I'm pretty much done with the card database, and kind of want to sift (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sift) and sort through the maybe board and see what different stuff I can come up with. In the current setup, I have to kinda of scroll up and down over and over when looking at the different boards, so I was hoping that by minimizing the card database, i could get more real estate on the screen so as to not have to scroll as much.
Maybe have an option to be able to re-arrange the board positions? Something like having the main deck on the right and the maybe board (or sideboard, or card database) on the left.
Hope I'm clear in my description. Thanks again for your great work!