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Title: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Aetherium Slinky on March 19, 2020, 03:22:32 pm
Right now I'm forced to work and there are zero customers. Can I build a new deck? Is it ok? Or should I just keep refreshing the page?
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WizardSpartan on March 19, 2020, 06:49:16 pm
Bro all I do at school is build decks. Knock yourself out.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WWolfe on March 19, 2020, 06:56:35 pm
Dude if you got time, brew away!
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Aetherium Slinky on March 19, 2020, 06:59:26 pm
You didn't get the point (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Get+the+Point): I want to socialize with you guys ;_;
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WWolfe on March 19, 2020, 07:29:20 pm
Ahh, so what’s new
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Aetherium Slinky on March 19, 2020, 07:36:36 pm
I'm outting together an Ertai deck that will be almost as awesome as the MRB deck I have. I just have absolutely no idea what I'm doing sooo...there's a bit of a learning curve.
In the evening I'm going to watch Mad Men and have some whisky. I'm a huge whisky fan.

What about you guys?
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: CleanBelwas on March 19, 2020, 07:50:00 pm
I'm a whisky lover too. I'm lucky enough to live in the UK where we get easy access to Scotch.

What are some of your favourites MustaKotka? I'll talk whisky with you all day.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Aetherium Slinky on March 19, 2020, 07:55:49 pm
I love Bunnahabhain, Ardbeg, Macallan, Auchentoshan (used to live 15mins away) and sherry casks in general. I dislike Laphroaig. Too much bacon for me.

I actually own a church wine cask here in Finland. It'll be ready in a few years. The distillate is good, I've tasted it a few times.

Yours?

Edit: derp typo
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: CleanBelwas on March 19, 2020, 08:10:47 pm
Haha that's hilarious, Laphroaig is my absolute favourite. It tastes like someone took the embers of a fire and dropped them in a glass of muddy vodka. Definitely not for everyone, but I love it.

I'm also a lover of Monkey (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Monkey-) Shoulder. There's just something inexplicable about it that I love and I can never quite put my finger on it. It's my go to drink throughout the summer. Really smooth and easy to drink. My wife gets me a bottle every year for my birthday at the start of summer and it's just wonderful to drink in the late evening when the sun is starting to go down. Love it.

I actually own a church wine cask here in Finland. It'll be ready in a few years. The still is good, I've tasted it a few times.

That's awesome dude. I hope we're all still around on here when it's ready. I'd love to hear all about it.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Aetherium Slinky on March 19, 2020, 08:23:24 pm
It's in a monastery called Valamo. They produce a third of the church wine consumed in Finland (whatever that is in litres) and they also make some berry wines and a gin I believe. Look it up! Good products - at least I want to believe in their brand (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Brand) and products.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WWolfe on March 19, 2020, 08:38:35 pm
I don't drink a lot anymore. It interacts with one of the medicines I'm on. I use to love some whiskey though.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WizardSpartan on March 19, 2020, 09:57:42 pm
I'm feeling bored, stuck at home. I'm running out of EDH decks I want to build. It's a little weird. I'm sure there are plenty of commanders I can build, but I'm very, very specific about limitations for what commanders to build. I might build Korvold, but he seems a little easy to build. Ah well, time to make more people rage quit with spirits in Pioneer.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Nils on March 19, 2020, 10:04:18 pm
Ha, I actually went on a distillery tour at Auchentoshan a few years ago. Sounds like I was in your neighborhood then MustaKotka. Although from what I remember it was mostly just cows and fields around there...
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Red_Wyrm on March 19, 2020, 10:08:33 pm
I'm feeling bored, stuck at home. I'm running out of EDH decks I want to build. It's a little weird. I'm sure there are plenty of commanders I can build, but I'm very, very specific about limitations for what commanders to build. I might build Korvold, but he seems a little easy to build. Ah well, time to make more people rage quit with spirits in Pioneer.


Love you babe, remember that. Have you considered pub stomping on actual video games like Apex or something?
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: CleanBelwas on March 19, 2020, 10:12:50 pm
It's in a monastery called Valamo. They produce a third of the church wine consumed in Finland (whatever that is in litres) and they also make some berry wines and a gin I believe. Look it up! Good products - at least I want to believe in their brand (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Brand) and products.

This sounds sweet, I'll definitely check it out. Maybe when the world has calmed down a bit I'll be able to get something shipped over.


Right guys, let's inspire WizardSpartan. Everyone pick a couple of commanders that you think WizardSpartan would enjoy.

Hell, if you can think of one you think anyone else would like, recommend that too.

A lot of us will find ourselves bored over the coming weeks, and with untap.in taking off we might even get to play these against each other. Could be a fun way to fill the time.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WizardSpartan on March 19, 2020, 10:29:05 pm
Have I considered pub stomping on games. Well, that requires me to be good at said games. I play League of Legends, but I'm not super good at it, and I don't like just playing video games all day.

I had a great idea, spurred on by CleanBelwas. What if, using EDHRec (without using each other's lists) we build each others' decks?

For example, y'all would go and make your own lists for Ezuri, Renegade Leader (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ezuri%2C+Renegade+Leader); Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kumena%2C+Tyrant+of+Orazca); and Alesha, Who Smiles at Death (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Alesha%2C+Who+Smiles+at+Death).
What do we think?
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on March 19, 2020, 10:43:23 pm
Oh hell yes! Some weird twist on one of my decks? Absolutely.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Aetherium Slinky on March 19, 2020, 11:07:59 pm
Sounds like fun idea! I'm working tomorrow again but I'll take the challenge on the weekend.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WizardSpartan on March 19, 2020, 11:21:08 pm
By building each others' decks, the og person might even discover some new cards that they didn't include. Also, we could play each others' decks against each other on Untap. That could get silly fast.

I'd say that we don't worry about budget, right?
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: CleanBelwas on March 19, 2020, 11:27:04 pm
Started a new thread for it:

https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php?language=english-utf8&topic=53403.msg154582;topicseen#new
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Red_Wyrm on March 19, 2020, 11:36:14 pm
I think first we need guidelines from King Baby in terms of what he is looking for in a commander. Then I'd be happy to make sure my fiance (wait husband? Are we married yet? No one told me) has a deck building challenge laid out in front of him.

Love you so so much babe.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WizardSpartan on March 20, 2020, 05:19:07 pm
Alright:

See what I mean, guys? It's tough out here. My current commanders fit these requirements. All 3 are 3 mana, very powerful part of their decks, have a lot of support but do require forethought, and Ezuri + Kumena means that I can't really afford to have another green deck. I would be forever indebted to whoever finds a good commander that fits within these guidelines.

P.S. Red_Wyrm, let's just say we eloped. Weddings are expensive, you know.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Red_Wyrm on March 20, 2020, 05:34:41 pm
Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tetsuko+Umezawa%2C+Fugitive)? I dunno he seems maybe too straight forward.

I like Sen Triplets (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sen+Triplets) because they have a powerful ability that doesnt require a build around. Like I tried out wizard tribal and also artifacts and both are fun. But that kind of ignores your number 6.

Haakon, Stromgald Scourge (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Haakon%2C+Stromgald+Scourge) is not blue, in case you couldnt tell, but definitely a unique and powerful ability that is creature based.

Guys. I'm married. I'll take your congratulations now.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: CleanBelwas on March 20, 2020, 05:58:55 pm
Alright:
  • Not in green.
  • Creature based.
  • Would like it to be in blue.
  • I don't like commanders that are ridiculously easy to build (Atraxa, Praetors' Voice (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Atraxa%2C+Praetors%27+Voice); Yarok, the Desecrated (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Yarok%2C+the+Desecrated); Korvold, Fae-Cursed King (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Korvold%2C+Fae-Cursed+King); etc.)
  • I like commanders with enough support to make a strong deck, though. (Not too hot, not too cold)
  • I like commanders that are integral parts of their decks (yet again, Atraxa, Praetor's Voice isn't necessarily required to build a good counters deck)
  • Because I like commanders that are integral parts of their decks, I don't want a commander that costs 6+ mana because after just a couple casts, they'll never be cast again for the remainder of the game.

Ok, I've got some ideas.

The Scarab God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Scarab+God)
Not in green - check
Creature based - check (in EDH at least)
Would like it to be in blue - check
Not too easy to build - check. Many variations for Scarab God. Zombie tribal is easiest, but certainly not the only option. Doing something much closer to his standard deck from back in the day is also a strong option. Dimir Control and ETB abuse with the reanimation effect. Milling opponents to steal their stuff is another option.
Enough support to make a strong deck - check. Zombies, strong ETBs and Mill are all plentiful in Dimir.
Integral part of the deck - check
Doesn't cost 6+ - check, plus you save on commander tax because of his last ability.

Marchesa, the Black Rose (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Marchesa%2C+the+Black+Rose)
Not in Green - check
In blue - check
Creature based - check
Not too easy to build - check. Again, loads of potential options. +1/+1 counters. Suicide. Steal and sac.
Enough support to be strong - check. Not top tier, but certainly formidable when done right
Integral part of the deck - check
Doesn't cost 6+ mana - check

The last one is a perhaps a little off on some of the points, but still potentially a good option.

Talrand, Sky Summoner (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Talrand%2C+Sky+Summoner)
Not in Green - check
In Blue - check
Creature based - check, if you want it to be
Not too easy to build - kind of depends. A lot of people play control and use the drakes to kill after slamming down a coat of arms (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Coat+of+Arms). That's how I built it back in the day. If you build it this way, it's kind of easy to build, but kind of challenging to pilot, which is fun in it's own way.
Enough support to be strong - check
Integral part of the deck - check if you're going the drake route, not so much if you're just combo-ing into lab man
Doesn't cost 6+ mana - check
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WizardSpartan on March 20, 2020, 06:37:43 pm
Update, I missed a couple major points. Sorry, guys. I've added them now.
Tetsuko - Meh.
Sen Triplets (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sen+Triplets) - one of my added points is that the commander/deck isn't inherently expensive. Sen Triplets (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sen+Triplets) need lands that tap for colors outside of its color identity, and many of those lands are expensive in addition to Triplets being expensive.
Haakon - I'll definitely take a look. Only problem is there might not be enough support.
The Scarab God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Scarab+God) - Expensive, already built.
Marchesa, The Black Rose (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Marchesa%2C+the+Black+Rose) - I built this one, playtested it a few times, it seemed fun. Dunno, it just didn't click with me.
Talrand Sky Summoner (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Talrand%2C+Sky+Summoner) - Being not noncreature based is extremely important for me. I dunno how monoblue that specifically mentions instants & sorceries can be built around creatures, but I can see where you can include some tribal synergies. Hmm.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Morganator 2.0 on March 20, 2020, 07:22:32 pm
Ephara, God of the Polis (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ephara%2C+God+of+the+Polis): Include creatures with flash (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Flash) and creatures that can make tokens at instant-speed.

The Locust God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Locust+God): Even though it is 6 mana, it evades commander tax relatively well. Use wheel effects and other mass card draw to make a swarm of locusts to beat your enemies with.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: Aetherium Slinky on March 20, 2020, 07:32:23 pm
Mangara of Corondor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mangara+of+Corondor)
The shell requires flicker (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Flicker), bounce and untaps but beyond that you can make it a white weenies deck. It's not blue but...it's kinda blue by its nature. Sorry about the not-multicolours though.

Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Shu+Yun%2C+the+Silent+Tempest)
Do an Izzet spellslinger voltron storm deck. Ditch white, just Izzet. You do have the option of going 3x Talismans and Signets, though, so it solves some of the bad ramp.

I'm looking at my old Tiny Leaders (https://deckstats.net/decks/93006/f55371/) decks; those are inexpensive and the Leader is always low CMC.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: CleanBelwas on March 20, 2020, 07:53:40 pm
Damn dude, you're tough to please. Even the ones that check all the boxes aren't quite right. We gotta think outside the box.

Ok, hear me out.

Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Temmet%2C+Vizier+of+Naktamun).

Checks all the boxes in colour, price, interesting, potentially strong and all that. Different enough form your existing decks to make it interesting. Embalm makes the tax a lot easier to handle.

Then you jam with some sweet token makers. Desolation Twin (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Desolation+Twin), that kind of thing.

Or jam with some of the excellent creatures UW have to offer and make your own tokens with helm of the host (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Helm+of+the+Host), mimic vat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mimic+Vat), quasiduplicate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Quasiduplicate) etc.

I've always fancied this deck but haven't got round to it yet. I think it could be way better than you might think at first.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: WizardSpartan on March 20, 2020, 08:20:02 pm
I saw Temmet once, and I'll take a closer look. Seems interesting.

Ephara, God of the Polis (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ephara%2C+God+of+the+Polis) - Seems very interesting. I like.

I am tough to please, you're right. It's more frustrating to myself, as I'll start a deck and just stop because I'm not interested/know I won't be able to build.
Title: Re: Refreshing Deckstats at work
Post by: CleanBelwas on March 20, 2020, 08:23:27 pm
Nothing wrong with having high standards and knowing what you like.