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English-language Forums => Commander Discussion => Topic started by: Morganator 2.0 on October 04, 2020, 03:22:31 am
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For the past year or so it seems like a lot of creature types are getting a commanders. Even some tribes that no one plays. Recently we've seen Clerics (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Orah%2C+Skyclave+Hierophant), Devils (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Zurzoth%2C+Chaos+Rider), Hydras (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Zaxara%2C+the+Exemplary), Knights (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Syr+Gwyn%2C+Hero+of+Ashvale), Minotaurs (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sethron%2C+Hurloon+General), Rogues (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Anowon%2C+the+Ruin+Thief), Satyrs (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Gallia+of+the+Endless+Dance), and Unicorns (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Emiel+the+Blessed). What's next? Which tribes do you think are going to get a commander soon? And which ones are you hoping for?
I think that spirits are going to get a good commander at some point. Kykar, Wind's Fury (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kykar%2C+Wind%27s+Fury) and Geist of Saint Traft (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Geist+of+Saint+Traft) just don't cut it. I think that a spirit-tribal commander would be white-blue, with a possibility of having black thrown in. I'm also expecting angels to get a new commander, even though Kaalia of the Vast (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kaalia+of+the+Vast) exists. White-Red-Green makes the most sense, but with the FIRE system for designing cards, I'm expecting 5-color angels.
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Gimme a proper Myr Commander, you cowards.
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Gimme a proper Myr Commander, you cowards.
You're speaking my language. A sultai elf commander would be nice, but definitely unnecessary.
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I like the idea of a proper Myr commander as well.
I would like to see another Dimir ninja (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ninja) commander personally, and a couple more legendary minotaurs.
Conceptually, minotaurs seem a bit confused as a tribe. All 3 Nehebs are different. Sethron, Hurloon General (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sethron%2C+Hurloon+General) is a bit boring. Moraug, Fury of Akoum (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Moraug%2C+Fury+of+Akoum) is really cool, but landfall is a bit difficult to work into a mono-red EDH deck so he doesn't quite belong at the helm of a minotaur tribal deck. Firesong and Sunspeaker (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Firesong+and+Sunspeaker) have zero tribal synergies; same goes with all the Tahngarths.
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I think a white-based Soldier tribal commander that encourages attacking through payoffs like card advantage/ramp (think new Akiri for card advantage) would be cool.
Perhaps weenies could be a theme to take advantage of cards like Mentor of the Meek (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mentor+of+the+Meek) & Bygone Bishop (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Bygone+Bishop) and hatebears.
I think a Soldier tribal commander that leans into the aggressive, hatebear side of white could definitely be interesting. There is plenty of precedent, and Keeper of the Accord (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Keeper+of+the+Accord) which would fit perfectly here has already been spoiled for Commander Legends.
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I hope there will be a archer commander. Something like al legendary Greatbow Doyen (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Greatbow+Doyen) or somethingike it. And it has to bee blue and green at least.
I wanna give my opponents creauters flying and shoot them out of the air after that.
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I hope there will be a archer commander. Something like al legendary Greatbow Doyen (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Greatbow+Doyen) or somethingike it. And it has to bee blue and green at least.
I wanna give my opponents creauters flying and shoot them out of the air after that.
Ah, I see that you are a gentleman of culture too.
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A monoblack necromancer commander....something like chainer, dementia master (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Chainer%2C+Dementia+Master) but that makes zombie and cost less. Something as an alternative to Sidisi for playing a lot of zomnbie....
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A monoblack necromancer commander....something like chainer, dementia master (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Chainer%2C+Dementia+Master) but that makes zombie and cost less. Something as an alternative to Sidisi for playing a lot of zomnbie....
You want Ghoulcaller Gisa (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Ghoulcaller+Gisa).
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NO, 5 cmc is to much I wanna a Male commander that works like cemetery reaper (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Cemetery+Reaper): exiles cards from graveyards to create zombie token, that's more futuristic if you consider the new escape rule or commanders like brokkos and nethroi....
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whooooooooops, I forgot to specify that my chosen tribe is necromancer, I know that in mtg is human wizard but I need another necromancer!!!! :P!!
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One for which a lot of demand exists is a better Commander for Werewolf than Ulrich of the Krallenhorde (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ulrich+of+the+Krallenhorde). Perhaps something like Immerwolf (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Immerwolf), boosting wolves and werewolves while stabilizing werewolves in their stronger form. Making a Commander that triggers whenever another werewolf transforms would likely get overpowered rather quickly...
What I would like to see, personally, is an Aetherborn Tribal theme. It is a unique race, with an interesting culture. I could definitely see it being a mono black deck with either an artifact subtheme or a +1/+1 counters subtheme...
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One for which a lot of demand exists is a better Commander for Werewolf than Ulrich of the Krallenhorde (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ulrich+of+the+Krallenhorde). Perhaps something like Immerwolf (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Immerwolf), boosting wolves and werewolves while stabilizing werewolves in their stronger form. Making a Commander that triggers whenever another werewolf transforms would likely get overpowered rather quickly...
What I would like to see, personally, is an Aetherborn Tribal theme. It is a unique race, with an interesting culture. I could definitely see it being a mono black deck with either an artifact subtheme or a +1/+1 counters subtheme...
I love the idea of both of those, wow. Aetherborn with an artifact subtheme would be really cool, as I haven't had any luck when trying to build artifact-based decks.
I love tribal strategies too much for my own good. Send help plz
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How about a werewolf commander that prevents werewolves from transforming back into their human form? The transform mechanic is a huge pain in the ass; I defy anyone to tell me otherwise. I gave up on my Arlinn Kord (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Arlinn+Kord) Oathbreaker deck because I couldn't be arsed to flip the cards. I even bought those checklist cards and had all my werewolves aside in clear Dragon Sleeves for simpler flipping and it was still tedious.
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One for which a lot of demand exists is a better Commander for Werewolf than Ulrich of the Krallenhorde (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ulrich+of+the+Krallenhorde). Perhaps something like Immerwolf (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Immerwolf), boosting wolves and werewolves while stabilizing werewolves in their stronger form.
Pretty much what I said :)
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Aetherborn kinda have Yahenni. Kinda. Sorta. But I would love a Kaladesh set with more Aetherborn!
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A sultai elf commander would be nice, but definitely unnecessary.
Preferably one that deals with elves and isn't ban worthy (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Leovold%2C+Emissary+of+Trest).
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A sultai elf commander would be nice, but definitely unnecessary.
Preferably one that deals with elves and isn't ban worthy (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Leovold%2C+Emissary+of+Trest).
Yeah, we don't talk about Leovold. I would like something more along the lines of Marwyn or Ezuri, but in colors that let you play most elves. Though, I guess it would have to be a glint-eye commander because of the Radhas and Bloodbraid Elf (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Bloodbraid+Elf).
Actually, I just checked. There are six white elves. I'll take an elf Kenrith, the Returned King, please, minus the generic good stuff abilities.
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I'll take an elf Kenrith, the Returned King, please, minus the generic good stuff abilities.
So you want a vanilla 5 mana 5/5 elf for a commander? /s
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I'll take an elf Kenrith, the Returned King, please, minus the generic good stuff abilities.
So you want a vanilla 5 mana 5/5 elf for a commander? /s
Honestly, a WUBRG elf legend with a generic lord effect would be a pretty fun casual tribal commander to me. Having a neat ability would be cool, but elves are synergistic enough without a good commander effect. (I would definitely play something silly like an elf Reaper King (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Reaper+King), though. )
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Honestly, a WUBRG elf legend with a generic lord effect would be a pretty fun casual tribal commander to me. Having a neat ability would be cool, but elves are synergistic enough without a good commander effect. (I would definitely play something silly like an elf Reaper King (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Reaper+King), though. )
The most flavorful effect for elves is the immeasurable amount of mana they can produce. So for me an abzan colored Marwyn, the Nurturer (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Marwyn%2C+the+Nurturer) would be the perfect commander. It's pure elf that she becomes stronger with every other elf and thus can produce more mana to have more elvish friends. Great stuff. :D
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Why does anyone want another generic 5-color goodstuff commander? Don't we have enough of those already?
And don't we already have enough elf-tribal commanders and effects?
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Why does anyone want another generic 5-color goodstuff commander? Don't we have enough of those already?
And don't we already have enough elf-tribal commanders and effects?
That's why I facetiously requested a non-goodstuff version. Also, yes, obviously there are enough good elf cards to never need another. But, I'm biased and I'll keep buying good elves if they keep printing them. Except Allosaurus Shepherd (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Allosaurus+Shepherd). Good fucking lord, that card is expensive for what it does.
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And don't we already have enough elf-tribal commanders and effects?
*squints*
Morg, look at who you are talking to. Why is that a question on your mind?
Except Allosaurus Shepherd (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Allosaurus+Shepherd). Good fucking lord, that card is expensive for what it does.
It physically hurts to look at the price of that card. I just want scritchy scratchy dino head elf for a reasonable price. Wizards pls
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I'd hope for a naya centaur of some kind, but I am aware that I have a soft spot for more "Interesting" (not good) themes and tribes.
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Actually, regarding Centaurs, I would think, based on speed and number of attack enabled appendages, a Centaur Lord that granted all of your Centaurs Doublestrike and removed Doublestrike from non-Centaur creatures would be appropriate...
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I mean, Stonebrow, Krosan Hero (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Stonebrow%2C+Krosan+Hero) exists. Admittedly it isn't Centaur tribal, but it thematically fits and is sort of similar to what y'all are talking about. Do you think it would be too similar of a design space?
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And so my necromancer it's real.... Tormod, the desecrator (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tormod%2C+the+Desecrator)
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the 26 Phoenix´s need a commander
and in an "tribe" deck i don't like to play a commander with a different creature "typ"
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the 26 Phoenix´s need a commander
and in an "tribe" deck i don't like to play a commander with a different creature "type"
I'm honestly a bit surprised the new Phoenix isn't Legendary. Considering the set's theme you'd think it would be, or at least that there would be a Legendary Phoenix if that one wasn't it.
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Honestly, a WUBRG elf legend with a generic lord effect would be a pretty fun casual tribal commander to me. Having a neat ability would be cool, but elves are synergistic enough without a good commander effect. (I would definitely play something silly like an elf Reaper King (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Reaper+King), though. )
The most flavorful effect for elves is the immeasurable amount of mana they can produce. So for me an abzan colored Marwyn, the Nurturer (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Marwyn%2C+the+Nurturer) would be the perfect commander. It's pure elf that she becomes stronger with every other elf and thus can produce more mana to have more elvish friends. Great stuff. :D
I play a Kethis, the hidden hand (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kethis%2C+the+Hidden+Hand) elf tribal deck. It's abzan and although it doesn't produce mana, it gives some kind of cost reduction. But the cost reduction does mather. And there other (legendary) elves that produce the mana I need.
So I'm glad with a few of the legendary elves in Commander Legends. Miara, thorn of the glade, Numa, joraga captain and especially Abomination (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Abomination) of Llanowar look like they would fit my deck. Now find some room for them....
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(https://mtgcardsmith.com/view/complete/full/2020/11/8/1604889340844364.png)
This is kind of what I was thinking for them to release as an Aetherborn Commander. I designed the card in mtgcardsmith (the image is by Jaden Lingerfelt, not my design, but I am a terrible artist). The card text got cut off a bit, but is as follows :
Lifelink (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lifelink), Deathtouch, Fabricate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fabricate) 3
Sacrifice an artifact: Target Aetherborn gains flying until end of turn.
Whenever an artifact or creature is sacrificed, put a +1/+1 counter on each Aetherborn creature you control.
Whenever an Aetherborn creature you control dies, lose 1 life and draw a card.—
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That second ability would probably be a bit too powerful, but aside from that, do Aetherborn really need a tribal leader? There's only 16 of them and they aren't really synergistic save the one lord.
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That second ability would probably be a bit too powerful
I agree. Maybe changing that to "put a +1/+1 counter on [CARDNAME] and it gains flying until end of turn" would be better.
Also, adding "you may" to that third ability would make it a little nicer. Just having the choice is good, nothing major.
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[D]o Aetherborn really need a tribal leader? There's only 16 of them and they aren't really synergistic save the one lord.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/dba36eecacae51c8f6fc5d383ba6f45c/tenor.gif)
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Griffins
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i think the Phoenix got a Commander
Jeska, Thrice Reborn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Jeska%2C+Thrice+Reborn)
not a "Phoenix" but "Reborn" will fit with Phoenix :-)
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Now is Phyrexian!!!!!! With the new creature type only Phyrexian!!!!
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[D]o Aetherborn really need a tribal leader? There's only 16 of them and they aren't really synergistic save the one lord.
Yes. They have Midnight Entourage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Midnight+Entourage) after all, but yes: other than there aren't that many Tribal lords. Probably there should be made such a Lord, like the one proposed.
Regards:
Chavo
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AETHERBORNS!!!!