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English-language Forums => Commander Discussion => Topic started by: WWolfe on February 19, 2021, 09:07:27 pm
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Stephen Green from Commander Vs posted this on Twitter and I thought it was an interesting question...
If you could add one color to any Commander, what color to which Commander and why?
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Add purple to the Ur-Dragon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Ur-Dragon).
On second thought, add red to muldrotha, that would be an interesting commander to play
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Add purple to the Ur-Dragon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Ur-Dragon).
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Since I think most commanders would get new ways to toy around with I'll stay with a mono-colored, actually brand (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Brand) new card: Egon, God of Death // Throne of Death (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Egon%2C+God+of+Death+%2F%2F+Throne+of+Death)
He is the latest card I wanted to build around, but had much problems using him nicely. So I would give him blue as a second color to have access to more self-milf cards.
Generally speaking I would say mono-colored commanders are the ones needing larger color identities the most.
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It's not a good choice as such, but I'd add green the The Scorpion God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Scorpion+God). I'd love a Jund -1/-1 counter deck.
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Add green to Merieke Ri Berit (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Merieke+Ri+Berit). I would gain access to dorks, Kiora's Follower (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kiora%27s+Follower) and Seeker of Skybreak (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Seeker+of+Skybreak).
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I'd add red to Atraxa so that I could finally build a full Phyrexia themed deck with all of the praetors. As it is, I can't run Urabrask.
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I know, I might earn dislikes and downvotes and I'm not the most particularly devoted EDH player, but if it was to me and contrary to the suggestion, I would not add; but I'd remove a color and that's Black from Inalla, Archmage Ritualist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Inalla%2C+Archmage+Ritualist). Why? Because, I find Black a redundant color in otherwise mostly Blue-Red and therefore Izzet Tribe as Wizards like are Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Niv-Mizzet%2C+the+Firemind), Adeliz, the Cinder Wind (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Adeliz%2C+the+Cinder+Wind), Naru Meha, Master Wizard (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Naru+Meha%2C+Master+Wizard), Kaza, Roil Chaser (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kaza%2C+Roil+Chaser), Melek, Izzet Paragon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Melek%2C+Izzet+Paragon) and Docent of Perfection // Final Iteration (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Docent+of+Perfection+%2F%2F+Final+Iteration). Naru Meha and Docent are really Mono-Blue, but adds an aggravation to my thought, in my opinion. Otherwise, I trully support that some Tribes maybe need additional colors or at least variations in possible or preconstructed Commanders like Omnath, but in case of Wizards, I just don't see Black in Inalla that imperative as inclusion.
Kind regards and with all due respect (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Due+Respect),
Chavo
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I would probably add white to Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Kumena%2C+Tyrant+of+Orazca). It would be a dream to be able to play Stonybrook Schoolmaster (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Stonybrook+Schoolmaster), Sygg, River Guide (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sygg%2C+River+Guide), Summon the School (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Summon+the+School), and Judge of Currents (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Judge+of+Currents), let alone generically fantastic white cards like Dovin's Veto (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dovin%27s+Veto), Swords to Plowshares (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Swords+to+Plowshares), Generous Gift (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Generous+Gift), etc.
Also, blue to Ezuri, Renegade Leader (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ezuri%2C+Renegade+Leader). Negate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Negate) the Wrath of God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wrath+of+God). Crush (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Crush) your opponents' wills to live. I'll leave it at that.
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Also, blue to Ezuri, Renegade Leader (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ezuri%2C+Renegade+Leader).
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Ezuri, Renegade Leader (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Ezuri%2C+Renegade+Leader)
Did you mean: Ezu, Renegade of the Leader?
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Hahaha I remember that post. I would change Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Raff+Capashen%2C+Ship%27s+Mage) to esper colors.
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Hi guys!
I'd love to see Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Noyan+Dar%2C+Roil+Shaper) with green (mostly for ramp). I know he is not so popular, but he was my first one.
I'm not into card-design, soooo feel free to blast me: maybe could he had been a legitimate bant card with the same effect, stats and cost in the first place...?
I'm currently daydreaming on a penta version of him, helmed by General Tazri (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=General+Tazri) (probably): with a little more green, providing mana and tutors for lands, I could reliably manage to cast a kickered Rite of Replication (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Rite+of+Replication) on a awakened (by Noyan or others) Field of the Dead (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Field+of+the+Dead). Hidden achievement of mine still locked for now.
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When I first saw Valki, God of Lies (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Valki%2C+God+of+Lies) // Tibalt, Cosmic Imposter ... I wished that it also had blue. I would love for it to be an alternate commander for my Mimeoplasm deck.
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My initial thoughts were on the decks I already had built and what another color could do to them...
* Purphoros (which I'm unretiring and retooling)- man, adding white for Smothering Tithe (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Smothering+Tithe) and Anointed Procession (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Anointed+Procession) could do a lot in this deck, but then again so could green for Doubling Season (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Doubling+Season) and Parallel Lives (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Parallel+Lives).
* Karador Shadowborn Apostles would love red to add in some of the RB demons such as Sire of Insanity (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sire+of+Insanity) just to give the deck a different feel (I ran Saskia as the commander at one point but the deck ran less smoothly as Saskia really didn't add anything other than the color while Karadors ability at times comes in handy).
* Grand Arbiter Augustin IV (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Grand+Arbiter+Augustin+IV) would love some black. Give it more removal and some of the depth black has with sac abilities to add to it would be insane, and my playgroup hates this deck as it is.
As for adding a color to a general I haven't built yet, CleanBelwas already hit the nail on the head. It's not a good choice as such, but I'd add green the The Scorpion God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Scorpion+God). I'd love a Jund -1/-1 counter deck.
I just drooled a little.
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Sylvester12 and I wrote a poem on the subject a while back:
Poor Scorpion God. No one ever remembers Scorpion God.
An Ode to The Scorpion God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Scorpion+God):
How good you could have been
If only you had green
But your brothers are way better
Worst God in the set-ter
You kicked Rhonas' butt
And opened Kefnet's dome
But that doesn't change the fact
You're not great in the command zone
Yo, I want in on making silly poems for disliked cards.
Card draw engine though thou art,
You could not melt the frigid heart
Of him, the player hight Belwas,
Who now laments "Green, what a loss!"
The least of three once styled gods,
Your skillset failed to even odds.
You languish (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Languish) now in long disfavor,
Unplayed by most Commander players.
Your amazing potential cannot be denied
If not for your place in the colour pie
But without green you could not hope to reap (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Reap)
The benefits from the company you keep
Hapatra and Obelisk Spider (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Obelisk+Spider), alas!
Relationships thwarted by Nicol Bolas (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Nicol+Bolas)
For Grixis is where the Dragon God lies
And your design space must comply
An agent of Bolas cannot be green
And so we lament what could have been
You could have been the king of my pod
My raison d'etre, My Scorpion God
Original thread for context, in case anyone cares:
https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php/topic,53051.0.html
Sometimes I like to think about an alternate timeline where The Scorpion God (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Scorpion+God) didn't go on a mad rampage, kill Kefnet, Oketra and Rhonas and get impaled on a massive obelisk. Instead, he channeled his rage into horticulture and helped Hazoret, Samut, Djeru and Hapatra rebuild (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Rebuild) Naktamun, planting trees and flowers and, most importantly, had green in his identity so I could build that goddam deck.
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Add green to Aurelia, the Warleader (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Aurelia%2C+the+Warleader) to play with Sigarda, Host of Herons (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sigarda%2C+Host+of+Herons) and Shalai, Voice of Plenty (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Shalai%2C+Voice+of+Plenty) plus green ramp and draw. Toski, Bearer of Secrets (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Toski%2C+Bearer+of+Secrets) and Craterhoof Behemoth (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Craterhoof+Behemoth) with Aurelia's double combats? Yes, please. I wish we could get an actually good Naya angel commander.
I would also be happy adding red to Sram, Senior Edificer (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Sram%2C+Senior+Edificer) (or adding red to Mesa Enchantress (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mesa+Enchantress) and making her legendary) - I think a two or three mana enchanter/enchantress commander could work wonders for Boros.
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Stephen Green from Commander Vs posted this on Twitter and I thought it was an interesting question...
If you could add one color to any Commander, what color to which Commander and why?
I would add black to Fynn, the fangbearer (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Fynn%2C+the+Fangbearer) :-).
Not sure why he is mono green anyway because his mechanic is very blackish but nvm.
With black he would get access to cards like hooded blightfang (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Hooded+Blightfang), Chevill, Bane of Monsters (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Chevill%2C+Bane+of+Monsters) and all the deathtouch creatures for just one b.
Additionally he would get draw potential, mass removal for creatures, the good black tutors and would be overall a better commander.
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I'ld actually add green to niv-mizzit, parun . RAMP
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I'm going to have to also jump (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jump) on the Bant merfolk train. Noyan Dar with green would make my day. Give that guy access to some real land shenanigans (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Shenanigans).
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I'd love to see Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Noyan+Dar%2C+Roil+Shaper) with green (mostly for ramp). I know he is not so popular, but he was my first one.
Yes! thats exactly what I was thinking. Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Noyan+Dar%2C+Roil+Shaper) is my personal favorite commander, but I also really like ramp....
Bosh, Iron Golem (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Bosh%2C+Iron+Golem) is really good in mono red, but I would love to add black for Marionette Master (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Marionette+Master) and Reanimate (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Reanimate) Effects to loop my beefy artifact beaters throwing them at my opponents faces!
Adding green to Wyleth, Soul of Steel (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wyleth%2C+Soul+of+Steel) would also be really good for more aura based strats, kind of like Uril, the Miststalker (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Uril%2C+the+Miststalker), but a bit more focused on drawing those precious cards off Wyleth and also for enchantress effects.
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I was feeling a little left out just reading this thread, so I decided to join in ;D
One awesome card that I wish had an extra color is absolutely Atarka, World Render (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Atarka%2C+World+Render). Adding black would open up possibilities for awesome removal, more cool dragons, and a whole bunch of tutors. And really, could anyone resist the juicy double-strikeness that would come from Boltwing Marauder (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Boltwing+Marauder) and Atarka's effects? That's a lot of damage.
Second thought I had was adding a colour to a very commonly played commander, but most that I can think of really don't need it. They're great the way they are. However, making Emry, Lurker of the Loch (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Emry%2C+Lurker+of+the+Loch) Azorius, Dimir, or Esper would open up a lot more artifact combo cards (like Time Sieve (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Time+Sieve)) and all those classic commander staples in those colours.
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I'd add green or blue to teshar so I could build a better version of my teshar sagas and artifacts deck. Both colors have the kinds of sagas I want however its be way more controlling if it had blue verse green.
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Muldrotha, the Gravetide (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Muldrotha%2C+the+Gravetide) with white 😍🤩 so much to abuse and access to all the orzhov-stuff😅😂
and Thrun, the Last Troll (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Thrun%2C+the+Last+Troll) with blue for Control-Smash XD
Sen Triplets (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Sen+Triplets) in my opinion is fine, but them with green in addition...
Mairsil, the Pretender (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Mairsil%2C+the+Pretender), every color with him can be abused - would have to look for the old broken cards, but first: white for Mangara of Corondor (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=de&card=Mangara+of+Corondor) = bye bye all permanents XD
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I would add red to Danitha Capashen, Paragon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Danitha+Capashen%2C+Paragon) to make her Boris. Giving her access to Champion of the Flame (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Flame) and Tiana, Ship's Caretaker (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tiana%2C+Ship%27s+Caretaker) definitely wouldn't hurt
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I would add red to Danitha Capashen, Paragon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Danitha+Capashen%2C+Paragon) to make her Boris. Giving her access to Champion of the Flame (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Flame) and Tiana, Ship's Caretaker (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tiana%2C+Ship%27s+Caretaker) definitely wouldn't hurt
I feel that. I got to a similar place and ended up using Tiana as the commander, and the deck was more fun than I thought it would be. Danitha would be way better in the command zone though.