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English-language Forums => General Magic => Topic started by: WWolfe on August 10, 2021, 03:51:01 pm
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Leader commander deck card...
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I'm still amazed by Infernal Grasp (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Infernal+Grasp). Finally an unconditional, instant speed 1B costed creature removal.
Also love the flavor of Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished) / Champion of the Parish (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Parish) :)
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Edited the original post to include the lands, they look pretty nice.
I'm still amazed by Infernal Grasp (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Infernal+Grasp). Finally an unconditional, instant speed 1B costed creature removal.
Also love the flavor of Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished) / Champion of the Parish (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Parish) :)
Like you I'm so happy with Infernal Grasp (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Infernal+Grasp), and I love the flavor of Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished). The fact you can tell it's Champion of the Parish (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Parish) adds so much to it. It's also a nice little one drop for zombie tribal decks.
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Is it me or have WOTC been knocking Standard Planeswalkers out of the park for the past year? With the exceptions of Niko Aris (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Niko+Aris) (who feels overcosted, as an understatement), Tyvar Kell (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tyvar+Kell) (because I'm not an Elfball main) and ESPECIALLY "Grand Master of Flowers (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Grand+Master+of+Flowers)" (they couldn't even NAME him), I've seen a whole swath of cards I want to put into all of my Decks (and many directly into "Superfriends" even), but most I haven't managed to because they just KEEP COMING.
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I'm still amazed by Infernal Grasp (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Infernal+Grasp). Finally an unconditional, instant speed 1B costed creature removal.
Also love the flavor of Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished) / Champion of the Parish (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Parish) :)
Oh, that'll be fun to sprinkle in ye olde sideboard!
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It's been a while since I played Standard, but wouldn't Infernal Grasp (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Infernal+Grasp) be worth mainboarding at least 2 of? I'm expecting to put 2 in the mainboard of my Modern Rakdos burn deck.
I'm really excited for this set. I was scared zombies were going to get left out in the dark since the focuses of these two sets are vampires and werewolves, but Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished) gives me great hope that they won't be.
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For standard - totally.
I'm a modern player, so I just love sprinkling in new cards here and there. I play green decks that eventually let me play forests as any land/mana, so the look on people's faces when I pull a card like the above is totally worth it.
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I'm Modern Tribal casual player and I look forward and expect only several cards from each upcoming and ongoing year set, due to the simple reason that Standard rolls out pretty quickly, each and every year. So far can't say anything: probably more Vampires in the upcoming spoilers? Let's see.
Regards:
Chavo
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So if my math is right, and to be honest those skills are questionable at times, previews start this coming Thursday. What are we hoping for?
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Personally, I'm hoping that there aren't too many cards that are good for my decks because I've been buying too many singles lately :D
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So if my math is right, and to be honest those skills are questionable at times, previews start this coming Thursday. What are we hoping for?
A full cycle of 13 cards. We know we're getting Triskaidekaphile (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Triskaidekaphile) and Triskaidekaphobia (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Triskaidekaphobia) exists. Even if not super competitive or strong, I think a cycle would be neat to see.
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Personally, I'm hoping that there aren't too many cards that are good for my decks because I've been buying too many singles lately :D
I’m hoping for the same thing but with Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished) already spoiled and the knowledge that one of the Commander decks is zombie themed, I’m not betting it’ll happen.
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The official start to preview season is at 12 EST.
Youtube- https://t.co/nUzYF5lf0v?amp=1
Twitch- https://t.co/fjrg4gILSx?amp=1
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MaRo (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Maro) teaser...
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/660959944480342016/maros-midnight-hunt-teaser
Before previews for Midnight Hunt officially begin, I thought it would be fun to do another of my Duelist-style teasers where I give tiny hints of things to come. Note that I’m only giving you partial information.
First up, here are some things you can expect:
• three popular mechanics previously seen on Innistrad return
• a new drawback for creature tokens that lets us create them cheaper
• a white card that could potentially draw you a card each turn
• a popular Innistrad card gets reprinted
• a curse that transforms into a creature
• two permanents that can double something every turn
• a mythic cycle with “you may pay [COST] any number of times”
• a four mana blue aura with “You control enchanted creature.”
• A popular tournament card in multiple formats gets reprinted with its fifth piece of art.
• a character from Innistrad once mentioned in a short story finally gets a card in an Innistrad set
Next, here are some rules text that will be showing up on cards:
• “If your life total would be reduced to 0 or less,”
• “This spell costs 1 less to cast for each creature you attacked with this turn.”
• “As [CARDNAME] enters the battlefield, note your life total.”
• “put a slime counter on up to one other target creature.”
• “Creature tokens you control lose all abilities and have base power and toughness 3/3.”
• “Each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has”
• “Instants and sorcery spells you cast cost X less to cast, where X is [CARDNAME]’s power.”
• “put that many +1/+1 counters on [CARDNAME], then create twice that many 2/2 black Zombie creature tokens”
• “At the beginning of your end step, if you have exactly 13 life,”
• “You may cast any number of the copies without paying their mana costs.”
Finally, here are some creature type lines in the set:
• Creature – Hippogriff Spirit
• Creature – Human Soldier Werewolf
• Creature – Dragon Egg (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dragon+Egg)
• Creature – Leech Horror
• Creature – Fungus Horror
• Creature – Plant Horror
• Creature – Drake Horror
• Creature – Demon Dog
• Legendary Creature - Ooze
• Legendary Creature – Vampire Noble (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vampire+Noble)
Tune in Thursday, Sept. 2 on Twitch (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Twitch).tv/magic at 9 a.m. PT as we kick off Innistrad: Midnight Hunt previews!
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Contortionist Troupe
XG
Creature - Human
Contortionist Troupe enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 Counters
Coven - At the beginning of your end step, if you control three creatures with different power, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.
Illus. Jesper Ejsing 0/0
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Commander
(http://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/wilhelttherotcleaver.jpg)
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Vampire Socialite (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vampire+Socialite) and Falkenrath Pit Fighter (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Falkenrath+Pit+Fighter) have made me huge impression to the point that I'm willing to include them in my Falkenrath Vampire Innistradia. However, further iterations of the deck can also consider (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Consider) the other upcoming Vampire-centered set in Innistrad: "Crimson Vow" after 2 months ahead. Since, as stated and widely known I am Tribal player and I only look further and expect only several cards from each upcoming and ongoing Standard-to-Modern set. It's unlikely that beside those 2 cards, I will like something else, since there aren't any other covered Tribes in Innistrad except Zombies, Humans, Werewolves and Vampires.
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As previously mentioned I really like Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished). I also am really high on the possibilities for Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wilhelt%2C+the+Rotcleaver). I just haven't decided if I want to use him in my Varina deck or if I want to build around him. I have to admit, I'm the most excited for him that I have been for any legendary in the past several sets.
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Is it just me, or more and more cards are just huge wall of text in these recent sets?
It feels like most of the time I just get bored halfway through reading them...
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Is it just me, or more and more cards are just huge wall of text in these recent sets?
It feels like most of the time I just get bored halfway through reading them...
To be real honest, with these past few sets there's some cards I missed part of because I tend to zone out on reading the rest of the card if the first part doesn't grab my interest.
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Is it just me, or more and more cards are just huge wall of text in these recent sets?
It feels like most of the time I just get bored halfway through reading them...
To be real honest, with these past few sets there's some cards I missed part of because I tend to zone out on reading the rest of the card if the first part doesn't grab my interest.
Yeah, same. The most egregious case have been the MDFC legendaries from Strixhaven. I think I've read just a couple of them before getting bored, and even for those I absolutely can't remember what they do.
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Spectral Adversary
1U
Creature - Spirit
Flash (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Flash)
Flying
When Spectral Adversary enters the battlefield, you may pay 1U any number of times. When you pay this cost one or more times, put that many +1/+1 counters on Spectral Adversary, then up to that many other target artifacts, creatures, and/or enchantments phase out.
2/1
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Ok, this definitely caught my attention. According to the translations:
Sorcery, costs 1 less for each creature on the battlefield: Destroy all creatures.
This has to be one of the best board wipes in the format alongside with Blasphemous Act (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blasphemous+Act), Toxic Deluge (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Toxic+Deluge) and Cyclonic Rift (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Cyclonic+Rift), right?
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Whoa, white got a Blasphemous Act (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Blasphemous+Act) like discount on a board wipe. Interesting.
(http://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/taintedadversary.jpg)
Reminds me of Josu Vess, Lich Knight (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Josu+Vess%2C+Lich+Knight) in some ways. The ability isn't on cast/kicker so you could do it with a reanimation situation as well but at the same time I'm not sure how it will actually play (how many times it would sit in my hand with other things I want to do instead).
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Reminds me of Josu Vess, Lich Knight (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Josu+Vess%2C+Lich+Knight) in some ways. The ability isn't on cast/kicker so you could do it with a reanimation situation as well but at the same time I'm not sure how it will actually play (how many times it would sit in my hand with other things I want to do instead).
I feel that this cycle is stronger in 60-cards formats than in EDH, where the effect tends to not be strong enough for the mana cost, but I may be wrong.
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Reminds me of Josu Vess, Lich Knight (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Josu+Vess%2C+Lich+Knight) in some ways. The ability isn't on cast/kicker so you could do it with a reanimation situation as well but at the same time I'm not sure how it will actually play (how many times it would sit in my hand with other things I want to do instead).
I feel that this cycle is stronger in 60-cards formats than in EDH, where the effect tends to not be strong enough for the mana cost, but I may be wrong.
I can see that. Seems pretty spot on.
As for the card you posted, that could potentially be among the best wipes in the format now.
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Delver of Secrets (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Delver+of+Secrets) reprint
(http://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/delverofsecrets.jpg) (http://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/insectileaberration.jpg)
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(http://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/lierdiscipleofthedrowned.jpg)
:o
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Holy $#!+. It wasn't enough to make the now-ubiquitous "everything gets this set's mechanic" card, but they had to make everything UNCOUNTERABLE too? Seriously? Snapcaster Mage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Snapcaster+Mage) is (ETA: WAS) already banned in at least one format; they had to make one that's THAT MUCH better?
What's that? People ONLY cast Counterspells with Snapcaster, and the effect is symmetrical so it's bad? As if. I'm just about done with the powercreep in Standard. Other formats and I MIGHT not care, but this will be IN STANDARD. WTF WOTC.
ETA: Apparently the Banlist page was bugged and Snapcaster isn't banned in Modern. That's about the third time I've had to triple reference something, but it was something different each time. Gatherer and Scryfall said otherwise, and when I went back it was fixed. I apologize for the confusion.
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Snapcaster Mage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Snapcaster+Mage) is already banned in at least one format; they had to make one that's THAT MUCH better?
What format is Snapcaster banned in? I can't think of one.
ETA- when I look on the gatherer, they have him legal in all four formats he would be legal in. (Modern, Vintage, Legacy, and Commander)
Anyway, as for the card itself...so the most anti-blue card in this set is in blue. ;D
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Holy $#!+. It wasn't enough to make the now-ubiquitous "everything gets this set's mechanic" card, but they had to make everything UNCOUNTERABLE too? Seriously? Snapcaster Mage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Snapcaster+Mage) is already banned in at least one format; they had to make one that's THAT MUCH better?
What's that? People ONLY cast Counterspells with Snapcaster, and the effect is symmetrical so it's bad? As if. I'm just about done with the powercreep in Standard. Other formats and I MIGHT not care, but this will be IN STANDARD. WTF WOTC.
It's also 5 mana and doesn't do anything by itself. It's been awhile since I've played Standard, but creatures that cost 5-6+ mana should either give you guaranteed value or be difficult to remove. This is neither. At best, you wait until you have 6-7 mana so you can play it and replay a cantrip. Also, it does turn off some of blue's most powerful instants, which means there's a serious opportunity (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Opportunity) cost to including him.
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Snapcaster Mage (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Snapcaster+Mage) is already banned in at least one format; they had to make one that's THAT MUCH better?
What format is Snapcaster banned in? I can't think of one.
ETA- when I look on the gatherer, they have him legal in all four formats he would be legal in. (Modern, Vintage, Legacy, and Commander)
Anyway, as for the card itself...so the most anti-blue card in this set is in blue. ;D
Fixed, sorry. Occasionally the official Banlist page bugs out; at one point Lucky Clover (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Lucky+Clover) was missing from the Standard section, and Wizards had to put it back. That isn't to say that Snapcaster was NEVER banned in Modern, but it's been off for years and that bug made me think it was back.
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Personally, I'm hoping that there aren't too many cards that are good for my decks because I've been buying too many singles lately :D
I'm pretty happy. The only card I really want from the set is Cathartic Pyre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Cathartic+Pyre), and I preordered a Vanquish the Horde (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vanquish+the+Horde) since it's gonna be a staple. Maybe I'll get some of the new "slow" lands, but I don't really need them.
So in the end, only 2 cards that I really want. I consider (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Consider) this a win :)
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Preordered Vanquish the Horde (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Vanquish+the+Horde) (just because), Champion of the Perished (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Champion+of+the+Perished) (for Varina), Augur of Autumn (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Augur+of+Autumn) (for Sidisi), and the commander precons (Undead Unleashed for me and the other one for my son). More than I had hoped for since I was hoping for not many to buy but not as bad as it could have been I suppose.
Of course, another set drops in two months so who knows.
ETA- I may keep the Undead Unleashed precon together to see if any new toys come out for it in the second Innistrad set before I decide what to do with it.
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So as of right now, according to MTGStocks.com, the top 5 cards based on selling average from the set:
The Meathook Massacre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Meathook+Massacre) at $46.75
Wrenn and Seven (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Wrenn+and+Seven) at $41.99.
Arlinn, the Pack's Hope (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Arlinn%2C+the+Pack%27s+Hope) at $17.21
Teferi, Who Slows the Sunset (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Teferi%2C+Who+Slows+the+Sunset) at $11.26
Tainted Adversary (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Tainted+Adversary) at $9.12
I'm not surprised by the planeswalkers, they almost always are up there right after a set releases. I am surprised by The Meathook Massacre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Meathook+Massacre). It's not a card many people were talking about before the release. I figured it would see play but I didn't expect it to be that expensive.
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I'm not surprised by the planeswalkers, they almost always are up there right after a set releases. I am surprised by The Meathook Massacre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Meathook+Massacre). It's not a card many people were talking about before the release. I figured it would see play but I didn't expect it to be that expensive.
I'm also a bit shocked by the price of The Meathook Massacre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Meathook+Massacre).
I have 3 decks with a heavy Aristocrats theme, but I've look at the card during spoilers seasons and decided I didn't need it.
Was I wrong? Is this a staple for Aristocrats deck, or is it just a lot of hype?
To be clear, I know that the card is good, just don't think it's 50$ good...
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I'm also a bit shocked by the price of The Meathook Massacre (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=The+Meathook+Massacre).
I have 3 decks with a heavy Aristocrats theme, but I've look at the card during spoilers seasons and decided I didn't need it.
Was I wrong? Is this a staple for Aristocrats deck, or is it just a lot of hype?
To be clear, I know that the card is good, just don't think it's 50$ good...
I would rather run Black Sun's Zenith (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Black+Sun%27s+Zenith) most of the time.
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I'm Modern Tribal casual player and I look forward and expect only several cards from each upcoming and ongoing year set, due to the simple reason that Standard rolls out pretty quickly, each and every year. techzpod (https://techzpod.com/) download mobdro (https://get-mobdrovip.com)