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English-language Forums => General Magic => Topic started by: Morganator 2.0 on November 29, 2021, 05:41:22 pm
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/unfinity-and-beyond-2021-11-29
Okay so... The silver border is gone. Some of these cards are treated as black-border and therefore legal in the eternal formats (including a reprint of Water Gun Balloon Fight). Some of them are treated as silver-border and are not legal in any formats. The not legal cards will have an acorn security stamp (foiling in the lower-middle part of the card).
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Some of these cards are treated as black-border and therefore legal in the eternal formats (including a reprint of Water Gun Balloon Fight).
So Pink now exists as a sixth color in normal games of Magic. That seems like a bit of an oversight on their part.
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Slightly off topic, but did you see the new shock (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Shock) land arts? That is incredible!
I think they handled the legality of the set pretty well. Most of the cards in un-sets are never used anyways so encouraging the player-base to use them in conjunction with other legal cards makes their existence worthwhile. And I would much rather play against a funny un-set card than a UB card any day of the week.
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So Pink now exists as a sixth color in normal games of Magic. That seems like a bit of an oversight on their part.
I haven't seen a preview for a card with pink mana. Do you have a link?
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So Pink now exists as a sixth color in normal games of Magic. That seems like a bit of an oversight on their part.
I haven't seen a preview for a card with pink mana. Do you have a link?
Mana no, color yes. 5/5 pink Giant Teddy Bear. Reprint of a silver bordered card, but no silver border and no acorn.
And nevermind, apparently that's just a misprint. https://twitter.com/maro254/status/1465362571729403908
The Acorn/No Acorn distinction on legality is already off to a wonderful start.
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I'm pretty excited about the fact that some cards will be legal in play. Getting people more familiar with un-sets is a big step towards making silver-bordered / acorn cards more generally accepted at casual tables down at the LGS. Of course, I'll always have replacements at the ready, but I feel like it would be fun to throw in some un-cards in a deck, just to add some spice on top of normal gameplay. Saw in Half looks unironically really cool, though. Casting that on a creature you control with abilities that stack well with itself (Avenger of Zendikar (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Avenger+of+Zendikar) for example) I can get behind, and I hope to see more of the likes of this kind of card.
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtggoldfish.com%2Fprice%2FUnfinity%2FSaw%2Bin%2BHalf&psig=AOvVaw1BUbvKSDn91dE77G83vT_r&ust=1638343585395000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCKDRrdbHv_QCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD)
Also I really, really, really like the "orbital space-ic lands". I'm going to have to buy at least one for each deck in that deck's colors. That Mountain (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Mountain) especially is absolutely stunning.
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdotesports.com%2Fmtg%2Fnews%2Fevery-borderless-full-art-land-in-mtg-unfinity&psig=AOvVaw3hYrSABNIAnQS_TmSjKwRG&ust=1638343532695000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCJDSzLXHv_QCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD)
The only thing that makes me somewhat uncomfortable is the existence of collector boosters for the set. For me it kind of ruins the "Wow, they want to give us something cool and fun without ulterior motives" feeling. But I'm not going to let that put a damper on this set. It looks awesome so far, and I can't wait to see the "Galaxy Foil" treatment!
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(https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/5/05e6a7bc-a35a-4e68-99a0-be264553b5de.jpg?1638224236)
People are already excited about this one. Looks like there's some combo potential, and it can be also used for some "brute" value plays (double Dockside Extorsionist anyone?). In any case, seems like a versatile and powerful spell.
Also I'm loving the new basics and Shocks. However I'm not gonna chase them personally, as they don't fit the theme of any of the decks that I am trying to "bling out".
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I've always been a fan of the Un Sets. I really like that the black-border capable cards now actually have a black border. But I feel like the the acorn symbol will cause LOTS confusion. I'm sure that black-border & silver-border intermixed within the set would cause printing issues. But I feel like that would be a much better answer.
I really love the basic lands. I'll hopefully get enough of each art (they aren't evenly mixed) in the box(es) that I buy. They will definitely be going into my Commander decks.
I'm not usually one to get very excited about alternate arts for anything other than basic lands. The shock (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Shock) lands are awesome. I likely won't be going after them as they will likely be VERY expensive.
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And here is that same link without the Facebook tracking ID.
https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/commander-rules-committee-updates-legality-for-new-unfinity-cards/
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Sorry forgot that I quickly posted it from a friend on there. It is easier on that website for our local playgroups to quickly communicate to one another.
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I can see Saw in Half getting a lot of play, so I am interested to see what other non-acorn cards the unset has.
Personally, I will be putting saw in half in a couple of my decks (ETB focused ones), especially my Gyruda, Doom of Depths (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Gyruda%2C+Doom+of+Depths) deck. I think it will serve as a way to get more triggers on my Gyruda if someone tries to kill it, using it in response since Gyruda will die anyways and I can at least get two more ETB triggers.
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Saw In Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) on Craterhoof anyone?
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Saw In Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) on Craterhoof anyone?
With Yarrok, and/or panharmonicon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Panharmonicon) in play in case you need four+ triggers for some reason
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We already have a lot of cards that make a copy of a creature you control. They only see play in specific decks. Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) will be the same.
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Yes there is stuff that makes “a” copy but saw in half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) makes 2 copies for just 3 mana at “instant” speed. Anything with an Etb will trigger twice. Twice for 3 mana instant speed is great value.
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Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) is also interesting for something like Serra Ascendant (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Serra+Ascendant), you would get two 3/3 base power and toughness copies that each get +5/+5, so two 8/8s. I think it is more unique than a copy spell, and you can find some fun ways to game it.
Any other non-acorn cards been spoiled yet?
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Yes there is stuff that makes “a” copy but saw in half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) makes 2 copies for just 3 mana at “instant” speed. Anything with an Etb will trigger twice. Twice for 3 mana instant speed is great value.
it also gets you a death trigger for decks that care about that, I will definitely be putting this in my meren of clan nel toth (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Meren+of+Clan+Nel+Toth) deck
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Any other non-acorn cards been spoiled yet?
I don't think there are but I could be wrong.
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Any other non-acorn cards been spoiled yet?
I don't think there are but I could be wrong.
(https://media.wizards.com/2021/unf/en_ECn7cmU0Bf.png)
Not nearly as exciting as Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half).
And the space basics. And the space shocks.
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We already have a lot of cards that make a copy of a creature you control. They only see play in specific decks. Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) will be the same.
There aren't that many that do 2 copies, at instant speed, for 3 CMC, and in black! :)
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I mean: who plays without blue anyway?
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We already have a lot of cards that make a copy of a creature you control. They only see play in specific decks. Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) will be the same.
It does feel like the newest card to get everyone excited and then virtually disappear (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Disappear) after release.
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That's my worry too. Remember when everyone freaked out over Panharmonicon (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Panharmonicon)? Or more recently Jeweled Lotus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jeweled+Lotus)? These cards didn't see as much play as we expected. I'm betting that Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) will be the same.
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We already have a lot of cards that make a copy of a creature you control. They only see play in specific decks. Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) will be the same.
It does feel like the newest card to get everyone excited and then virtually disappear (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Disappear) after release.
Agreed. I think it will be the same.
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We already have a lot of cards that make a copy of a creature you control. They only see play in specific decks. Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) will be the same.
It does feel like the newest card to get everyone excited and then virtually disappear (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Disappear) after release.
Agreed. I think it will be the same.
That possible. But some cards live up to the hype, and I suspect this will be one of them.
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Jeweled Lotus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jeweled+Lotus) didn't see much play as expected? Then why is there an $85 dollar price tag still sitting on it?
Remember Deflecting Swat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Deflecting+Swat), Dockside Extortionist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dockside+Extortionist), Fierce Guardianship (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fierce+Guardianship), Smothering Tithe (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Smothering+Tithe), and Teferi's Protection (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Teferi%27s+Protection) (been reprinted) have all retained their hype.
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Jeweled Lotus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jeweled+Lotus) didn't see much play as expected? Then why is there an $85 dollar price tag still sitting on it?
Remember Deflecting Swat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Deflecting+Swat), Dockside Extortionist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dockside+Extortionist), Fierce Guardianship (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fierce+Guardianship), Smothering Tithe (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Smothering+Tithe), and Teferi's Protection (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Teferi%27s+Protection) (been reprinted) have all retained their hype.
This is true, but at the same time, all these cards are cards that go into any deck of their color, whereas saw in half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) seems a little bit narrower in the decks that would use it. Other than Aristocrats or ETB focused decks, it will mostly likely be a useless card.
Do I still think the card is good? Absolutely!
Do I think it should be used in any deck like the cards robort mentioned? no.
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Jeweled Lotus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jeweled+Lotus) didn't see much play as expected? Then why is there an $85 dollar price tag still sitting on it?
Remember Deflecting Swat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Deflecting+Swat), Dockside Extortionist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dockside+Extortionist), Fierce Guardianship (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fierce+Guardianship), Smothering Tithe (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Smothering+Tithe), and Teferi's Protection (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Teferi%27s+Protection) (been reprinted) have all retained their hype.
Jeweled Lotus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jeweled+Lotus)' price is due to it being overhyped when it was spoiled, and now that not everyone wants one the price is on a downward trend. If it gets a second printing it will not keep that $85 price tag.
All of those other cards you mentioned are mana ramp or protection spells, something every deck wants. Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) is neither of those things.
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Jeweled Lotus (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Jeweled+Lotus) didn't see much play as expected? Then why is there an $85 dollar price tag still sitting on it?
Remember Deflecting Swat (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Deflecting+Swat), Dockside Extortionist (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Dockside+Extortionist), Fierce Guardianship (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Fierce+Guardianship), Smothering Tithe (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Smothering+Tithe), and Teferi's Protection (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Teferi%27s+Protection) (been reprinted) have all retained their hype.
All of those other cards you mentioned are mana ramp or protection spells, something every deck wants. Saw in Half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) is neither of those things.
In a way, Saw in half (https://cards.deckstats.net/magiccard.php?utf8=1&lng=en&card=Saw+in+Half) is a protection spell, when somebody tries to remove one of your creatures, you can make sure it dies instead of being exiled and you get two of them instead of one.