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Deck Reviews / Re: [EDH / Commander] Varina, Lich Queen Zombies

« on: April 03, 2019, 03:16:45 pm »

Quote from: Ylhyssia on April 03, 2019, 01:04:35 pm

Welcome, I'm always happy to help

Quote from: Damian Nocturne on April 03, 2019, 04:59:27 am
I've played this deck a few times it is very slow compared to everyone else in my playgroup, then again most of theirs are pre cons but upgraded/refined.

Reducing your curve, adding more mana rocks, ramp, and draw will make this deck go a lot faster. Also if you can get zombies on the board really fast (which is why 1-3 drops are important), you can start using varina on turn 3-4 to start digging through your deck and sending stuff to your graveyard.

Quote from: Damian Nocturne on April 03, 2019, 04:59:27 am
I'm still trying to get a grasp on how to use Varina properly.

Varina isn't easy to pilot, far from it, but she's extremely rewarding, and can be played in multiple ways. You can use her discard ability to send creatures to the graveyard if you want to make a reanimation deck, or you can use her discard ability to your advantage (Archfiend of Ifnir, Library of Leng) or she can be built as a zombie token deck pretty effectively due to her 2nd ability. She can simply be used as a kind of toolbox commander as well, where you use her ability to discard cards that aren't really useful right now, and go get more useful stuff by digging, and simply use the cards in your yard to make zombies; your graveyard then becomes fuel for your commander. She can also be built as a combo deck from what I've seen (Gravecrawler, Nim Deathmantle, etc.).

My idea was roughly reanimation and token maker if there was graveyard hate.
I'm more of a mill/combo player so trying to use the graveyard as an another resource is something I'm trying to get better at.
Aminatou, the Fateshifter is the other commander deck I use and find that easier to pilot as I've made that into blink-combo nonsense.

I think I need to refine and focus on a theme instead of just putting things in because they're zombies, might have to take Varina back to drawing board and remake.

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Deck Reviews / Re: [EDH / Commander] Varina, Lich Queen Zombies

« on: April 03, 2019, 02:55:27 pm »

Quote from: Judaspriester on April 03, 2019, 11:45:58 am

You're welcome.

Btw, if you want to invest a little more money in your deck, you could also improve your land base. Cut the tap lands and replace them with check lands (Glacial Fortress, Drowned Catacomb, Isolated Chapel) and battle lands (Prairie Stream, Sunken Hollow). That should already speed up the deck, since you have a lesser amount of lands that enter tapped.
Painlands (Adarkar Wastes, Underground River and Caves of Koilos) would also be a budget option, but I personally don't like them that much.

Oh, I've just noticed that your deck lacks a cheap and important land: Command Tower.

I've got a few of them but they're in other decks, though I am looking to get more such cards.
Thought maybe risking Cabal Stronghold because the black mana is quite a lot.

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Deck Reviews / Re: [EDH / Commander] Varina, Lich Queen Zombies

« on: April 03, 2019, 04:59:27 am »

Thank you all for the feedback, this is my first commander deck I've made from scratch.

Once payday rolls in I was gonna add in cards such as sol ring. I've played this deck a few times it is very slow compared to everyone else in my playgroup, then again most of theirs are pre cons but upgraded/refined.
I'm still trying to get a grasp on how to use Varina properly. Most of the cards I've put together were just what was laying about.

The more I look at this deck I wonder if I should drop down to Dimir colours(with something like Gisa and Geralf) than Esper though most of the likes of enchantment removal is in white, which is quite big in some of my playgroups decks.

Thank you again for the feedback Ylhyssia, Judaspriester, Mmtkbb_30 it's really helped me seeing where I can improve as I'm not a big commander builder.

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