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Deck Reviews / Re: Used AI to design Casual Affinity deck

« on: December 07, 2023, 03:11:44 am »

I improved the algorithm and putted in some expensive cards and this Is the result for vintage

https://deckstats.net/decks/196702/3316381-vintage-affinity-designed-by-a

Still needs to add the moxes, however the simulation shows the improvement is marginal. That means the Casual Deck can compete with the Vintage One. However this is a very good starting point.

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Deck Reviews / Used AI to design Casual Affinity deck

« on: November 28, 2023, 09:02:31 pm »

Hi I wanted to post my deck, I designed it using AI

https://deckstats.net/decks/196702/3305981-casual-affinity-designed-by-ai

It evolved from a selection of cards and I wrote the algorithm as well the code to simulate the MTG rules. Basically the deck is optimal from the point of view of maximizing damage in aggro way and optimizing the mana curve. For now it cannot keep into account interaction with more complex cards like counters, controls etc.

It already is probably the most advanced piece of software on MTG simulation and is already incredibly complex. I think this deck is a very good starting point to select a sideboard.

Interestingly I also have found interesting data on some cards.

But I would like to know from you for which formats it could be worth finding an optimal AI deck. And which cards would be worth to be inserted in the simulation.

This one on average could win potentially at turn 5  for the 99% of games. Of course the simulation do mulligan down to 5 cards if the following conditions are not met

• 2-3 lands (no more than 2 Sagas)
• 1 creature and 1 powerhouse

So the average winning turn 5 count only if you mulligan the same way

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Deck Comments / Re: discard your friends :) - Comments

« on: January 09, 2022, 01:37:03 am »

That's an Amazing card

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Deck Comments / Re: Lotus Field Combo - Comments

« on: January 02, 2022, 05:09:18 pm »

Does this works by:
1) get 2 the mana
2) play lotus field => you sacrifice the previous 2 lands but in total you get 5 mana at 3rd turn
3) thespian's stage => 4th turn 6 mana (and of any color)

right?

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[it] Forum generale Magic / Re: Mazzo Mono Bianco Soldati/Pedine

« on: January 02, 2022, 05:01:18 pm »

Le carte sono (Deftblade Elite)
(kjeldoran outpost) (Land tax)

scusa il doppio post ma non mi lascia editare perchè nell'altro forum mi sono lamentato che gli upvotes, vengono eliminati automaticamente da downvotes (magari c'entra che ho messo analisi statistiche mostrano che alcune carte molto giocate e costose non sono così utili ^^)

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[it] Forum generale Magic / Re: Mazzo Mono Bianco Soldati/Pedine

« on: January 02, 2022, 04:56:26 pm »

Se metti il nome esatto delle carte, passando sopra il mouse viene mostrata l'anteprima.

Io una volta avevo un mazzo bianco token soldati. Erano i tempi di mirroding quindi giocava molto sul Plasmametallo Aurok,
però altre carte che mi sento di consigliarti, anche se non so se sono ancora accettabili in modern sono:

Elite di fortelama
Avamposto di Keldon.

Almeno a me tornavano utilissime, ma probabilmente ora sono desuete con le nuove carte più forti in gioco, comunque dacci un occhio non si sa mai

Sicuramente non modern anche la carta
Tassa sulle terre

Che permette di cercare terre, ma in realtà molto utile perchè così smetti di pescarle, io le tenevo tutte in mano per poter continuare a svuotare il mazzo dalle terre, mi sorprende che non sia più giocata come carta anche in altri mazzi. Permette di usare una curva di mana più step, quindi in teoria è utile in molti mazzi.

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Deck Comments / Re: discard your friends :) - Comments

« on: January 02, 2022, 04:51:23 pm »

I love black and red colors. This deck is superb! Thank you for sharing

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General Magic / Re: Is springleaf drum really useful in affinity?

« on: December 30, 2021, 07:01:12 pm »

Final conclusion

Springleaf drum should be present only in maximum quantity of 1, and only if Urza's Saga is used. This gives the chance to get a mana when that enchanted land finally have to sacrifice itself.

EDIT: It's really a pity objective analysis of cards gets downvotes . I though that instead of regular social media where things you don't like gets downvoted, here quality content would get upvoted.
Also it's pretty awkard, I'm getting a lot of positive and negative downvotes, seems like upvotes gets automatically deleted..

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General Magic / Re: Is springleaf drum really useful in affinity?

« on: December 25, 2021, 11:21:46 pm »

Then what about second turn card?

For a second turn play, springleaf drum and paradise mantle are perfectly equivalent,


Assuming the same Number of lands (18 ), paramantle(4), 0creatures( 8 ), the factor changing Is Number of cards of cost3.
The chance for the combination
1x ocreature
1x paramantle
2x land
1x anything with cost 3
 is
4 cards = chance is 7.6%
8 cards = chance is 13.0%
12 cards = chance is 16.6%

Still too low. Ok I admit It Is a usefull replacement as the last called card for Urza's saga (so in case the saga doesn't finish the game, you can still get 1 mana).

In my opinion, there shouldn't be more than 1 (possibly 0) springleaf drum or paradise mantle in affinity decks.

And yes I know it's tempting to Say "yes but from time to time, i can equip Cranial Plating on second turn thanks to that". Don't do It. Mox Opal is Better. It don't requires a creature. Ita basically free mana you can Always play in affinity deck ( to be honest, in a deck with 53 artifacts cards, the chance to not activate mox Opal at First turn are very low, and negligible at second turn)

Note:

Why I don't count the Drum as utility card?
I'm reasoning in a combo way.
If you put 4 of them, you basically get it 1 in every 1 out of 3 games.

But to be usefull at the second turn you also need a specific set of cards, so while it is by itself a card and can provide  some other utility it's best spent in the combination.

To count a card as utility the prerequisites are

1)The other cards in the combination are likely to be drawn
2) the other cards are usefull by theirselves
3) the utility Is usefull by itself.

Paradise Mantle and Springleaf drum have not these points.

What about the combined chance?
So how unlucky you should be to not draw the combination usefull for the First turn, and the combination usefull for the second turn?
0.746*0.834 = 62.2% chance to not draw both

So you either get First or second turn Just in 37.8% of games.. too low.

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General Magic / Is springleaf drum really useful in affinity?

« on: December 24, 2021, 11:35:47 am »

I computed the chance of the springleaf drum,

To use Springleaf drum at 1st turn you need a mana to cast the drum (and a 0 cost creature), then use the drum to cast something else (not thoughtcast, because we have only 3 artifacts at this point).

so the combination of cards is (even assuming keeping 12 creatures with cmc 0 is wise)

12 x (0 cmc creatures) at least 1 in hand
4 x (spring leaf drum) at least 1 in hand
18 x (lands) at least 1 in hand
12 x (spell with cmc =1) at least 1 in hand.

in a 60 cards deck, the chance for that  In your First 8 cards Is 25.4%.
Final conclusion? on turn 1 much better just something with cost 1 that you use for something else, or 1 Mox Opal.
Now, advantages of springleaf drum as a 2nd/3rd turn extra mana? (meaning potentially you can cast a cost 3 creature thanks to it at 2nd turn, but that still relies on having 1 creature with cmc 0, requiring polluting the deck with useless creatures, otherwise you should spend mana to cast another creature)

Another alternative for using Springleaf Drum, is to have 4 moxes (regardless you can play only 1), and many cost 1 stuff, meaning on first and second turn you play 4/5 creatures, but then you have a empty hand. But I have yet to verify the chance for this kind of combo (though maybe this one is good, it could allow Cranial Plating attack on 2 turn, but is that more worth than having other kind of cards?)

Having some doubt also on moxopal... this need deep reflections. I think automatically adding it to decks just make the price goes up, without really thinking if it fits or if it is usefull..

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Deck Comments / Re: Budget Dark Sovereign - Comments

« on: December 24, 2021, 11:13:46 am »

USEFULLNESS OF SPRINGLEAF DRUM AT FIRST TURN:

Very few, the theory behind springleaf drum, is that it allows to tap immediatly any creature. So in theory you could play a mana, a 0 cost creature, then the drum and use the drum to cast another spell.

However the combination
12 x 0 creatures (at least 1 in hand)
4 x springleaf drum (at least 1 in hand)
18 x lands (at least 1 in hand)
12 x Something that has cast cost 1 (at least 1 in hand)

has only 21.7% chance of being played the first turn (29.1% if you begin second drawing and extra card).
So springleaf drum is not justified to be a first-turn-er. Maybe a second turner?

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Deck Comments / Re: Whale Combo - Comments

« on: December 21, 2021, 12:44:55 am »

Is there a way to test decks online for free? I would like to test it against my Dark sovereign.

Thank you. Do you know any app or webapp?

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Deck Reviews / Re: [Vintage Affinity] Dark Sovereign

« on: December 21, 2021, 12:28:05 am »

I thanks this user to have used the Copy function and made this deck into the final form by adding expensive cards.

Some of the changes were exactly the ones I wished for


https://deckstats.net/decks/148985/2362788-artifacz

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Deck Reviews / [Vintage Affinity] Dark Sovereign

« on: December 20, 2021, 07:40:46 pm »

Hi everyone, this is my current affinity deck.
A bit of context, I had a crappy affinity, I wanted to make it pretty good within 30% euros of expense.

So I had to trade a bit of power for cheapness.

There is a 71% chance to get the combination to make it work (53% to get cards  without mulligan, and another 18% with 1 mulligan)

The combination includes
22 creatures
20 mana
11 powerhouses

(which means I need 1 powerhouse, 1 creature and 2 mana to get the combination I need, other usefull combinations are not in this calculation)

Ideally I'd add more powerhouses to increase %, but I was budget limited. There is a chance to get a Card Draw card, so actually the chance is slightly above 71% (which is pretty good for me for a cheap combo deck).

Part of the tradeoffs, were to not change to much cards, because of that, the deck is vintage just because of 2 artifact lands, otherwise it could play in modern (however, I would need to change too much cards in that case).

Let me know what you think about that

https://deckstats.net/decks/196702/2362386-dark-sovereign

To make it more powerfull:

Remove duress,
Remove paradise mantle

put in Silverleaf Drum, and Some extra powerhouse, someon would remove also Pithing Needle, Tormod's Crypt and add extra creatures like Vault Skrige or Memnite

Extra cards + old cards are kept in sideboard (that's why I have still red mana lands).

If someone is interested I found a method on my own on how to compute mana curve for affinity decks
(anyway it's simple, you have a mana curve for each amount of artifacts up to 7, which means if you have 98% chance to start with 1 artifact you can just consider the second mana curve, and then you get a specific chance to play the third mana curve and so on)

EDIT: It happens  by trying random hand drawings.... that probably this deck without changes is pretty strong O_O ideally I'd need to try it in real games though

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[it] Richieste recensioni mazzi / [Vintage Cheap Affinity] Sovrano Oscuro

« on: December 19, 2021, 08:04:32 am »

Buonasera, vorrei farvi vedere il mio nuovo Affinity,
Sono partito da quello poco forte che avevo, e ho cercato di potenziarlo al massimo con il minor costo.

Per pura coincidenza sembra essere riuscito parecchio
Bene. Ma l'unico modo per essere sicuro é provarlo. Ci sono app per match online (gratis magari)?

https://deckstats.net/decks/196702/2362386-dark-sovereign

(P.S. non dimenticate di lasciare un like nella pagina del mazzo se può farvi risparmiare qualcosa. )