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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: September 04, 2016, 10:03:10 pm »

Hey guys, I got my final build finished to day and posted it here http://deckstats.net/decks/61302/561293-red-black-madness-vampires-
check it out, I also put in the deck review forum let me know what you guys think.

Thanks for all the help

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Deck Reviews / [Casual] Red/Black Madness Vampires

« on: September 04, 2016, 10:01:02 pm »

Red/Black Madness Vampires

So this is a deck I built with your guys help on my post Helping a beginning player a new deck (https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php/topic,23366.0.html). I went off of KouriNick's build except I changed a lot. Almost all of the cards have a madness cost and there are more than enough madness outlets so you should only every have to cost cards for their madness cost. The win conditions are mainly the vampires, but there is also a underlying token generation strategy, using From Under the Floorboards, Call the Bloodline and, Cyrptbreaker. Voldaren Pariah is in there because I think that you generate enough tokens to sac to it so it will flip. I gave my dad a $65 budget which is pretty decent for a mostly casual deck. We also had some of the cards already and I traded to get more of the cards as well. This build isn't quite done yet and I would like to here your guy's opinion. Give me any suggestions as what else I could take out and put in I will gladly take any suggestions thank you.
Thanks again to everyone who responded to my post in the general forums.

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General Magic / Re: Kaladesh New Card Discussion

« on: September 04, 2016, 01:39:26 am »

So since we are obviously going to see tons and tons of artifacts in Kaladesh how much artifact hate will there be? I know modern does but in standard I don't think there is a whole lot. Of course we will see some but will it be enough? Either way I am super excited for this set it looks like its gonna be a lot of fun.

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: September 01, 2016, 12:15:58 am »

Thanks for all the help guys I really appreciate it . Once I have the final build constructed I will post for you guys to check out!

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 31, 2016, 01:56:26 am »

I really like that combo that KuoriNick came up with and actually sounds like something I want to play. Actually I might play that it sounds like a lot of fun. My problem is that it is a little complicated and last night I almost beat him even though he had a awesome combo in his hand. I had him show he what he had and then helped him wipe my board swing for game, it was actually a pretty sweet win from behind. And Kuori is right we already have a lot of those cards not playsets of them but two or three copies of some of them. Now as for my self I might get the build he suggested to play myself. Its really spell heavy and that is something he is still a little trouble with so yeah.
Thanks for all the help guys.
I still haven't decided on which build to get my dad I think the one he has right now will be a okay temporary deck. So far its between aizbert065's build and KuoriNick's build. I showed my dad a potential build for a relentless rats and he looked at the price and said you know what I think madness will be fine. But if anyone has any other suggestions I'm all ears.

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Deck Comments / Re: auras magic - Comments

« on: August 30, 2016, 05:11:06 am »

you should put 4 copies of Kor Spiritdancer in here if you can afford, I thinks she's like $10 a pop. if you can't oh well

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Deck Comments / Re: White Red Human Ally Equippment - Comments

« on: August 30, 2016, 02:03:32 am »

I have built a similar card check out my list http://deckstats.net/decks/61302/556855-r-w-ally-equipment-/en the side board needs to be changed but other than that my list is tier 3 at best but I do like your build its cool build. Even if its mediocre BONE SAW 4 LIFE lol jk. I have played with the idea of changing my build by adding humans and some of the SOI equipment but none of it was good enough for me to play.

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 30, 2016, 01:39:44 am »

I like all of the cards Jabilac mentioned, they are all pretty good but a little pricey for cryptbreaker and collective brutality. As for Prophetic Raving vs Mad Prophet I don't think either of them will go into the deck but I think I will use prophetic ravings as a temporary card which will help him get used to using activated abilities to enable madness. Looking at the cards we think would be good plus the http://deckstats.net/decks/50939/556858-madness-rb-aggro-and-destructi/en list, there are very few cards in the intro pack deck that would actually be used lol. But I am fine with that because that way I can use the intro deck to help him practice with madness. Also I think I have one copy of Collective Brutality, so should I play it even if it isn't a play set?, and this question goes for any good card that may be kinda pricey.
I put 2 copies of prophetic ravings, 1 murder, 1 stensia masquerade, 1 wailing ghoul( idk why) and, 1 ruthless disposal.
I took out 2 sanguinary mage, 1 vampire noble, 2 malevolent whispers, and 1 murderous compulsion

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 29, 2016, 03:06:41 am »

here is the intro pack deck list that he has. It is actually more focused on vampires with a secondary madness theme but I don't like the build very much. I don't remember what I took out or put in, I know I threw a copy of murder in there but I don't remember what I took out to put it in.
 http://deckstats.net/decks/61302/557554-soi-vampiric-thirst-intro-deck

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 29, 2016, 02:47:23 am »

Mad Prophet is 4 mana which is why i don't like him, but you are right he is more reliable than prophetic ravings. It seems like this is coming together quite nicely. Falkenrath Gorger is the card that gives all vampires madness, if this shapes in to a R/B vampire madness deck he would be awesome. But if it does turn into vampires which it kind of already is I am not sure about running crypt breaker because its a zombie. I think we have put together a sizable amount of madness outlets to make the deck better.

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 29, 2016, 12:52:36 am »

okay so you can't madness twice off of sinister concoction. 

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 29, 2016, 12:48:30 am »

Personally I don't like Mad Prophet because I think Prophetic Ravings does the same thing to any creature and it has a cheaper mana cost. I love call to the blood line because it also acts as a token generator.

Does putting the top card of your library allow for madness triggers if the card has a madness cost, or is that just milling and you can't cast it for its madness cost?

The intro pack came with a sinister concoction and that's a fine card I think. So is the creature base vampires? if so stensia Masquerade might be a good addition. But if its a combination of zombies and vampires I don't think masquerade is as good.

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Deck Comments / Re: Budget Deck: $10 Standard B/R Burn (Rotation Proof)! - Comments

« on: August 28, 2016, 11:13:38 pm »

I really like SBMtG a lot his stuff is usually pretty good.

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 28, 2016, 09:25:34 pm »

Why not just play those decks against each other and show him how to exchange better cards for each deck as you go along? Each of you play those decks of course and then show him other cards that can go into each deck to make each for better interaction and synergy. Try to aim to have at least 1 of those compete against your good deck

I really like this idea because I can work with the limited card collection that I own and he won't have to buy an entirely new list of cards. I don't have a deck that I play regularly other than my R/W equip because its the best I have, a while back I posted about building a casual Izzet spells deck ( http://deckstats.net/decks/61302/549605-izzet-casual-i-don-t-know-izze/en ) this is the deck I hope to play I haven't actually gotten any of the cards yet. But building off of the madness deck is probably best because its a powerful mechanic and with a little bit of help and a lot of practice it can be really powerful. So going with the madness theme I like the deck that aizbert065 has and I think that is something that I can work with. I might keep using the current deck he has now to help him get better with the mechanic. And on that note, is prophetic ravings a good discard out let or at least a temporary one because the intro pack deck had like 16 madness cards and 3 discard outlets which were less than reliable. It seems like a pretty good substitute for now I just wanted to see what you guys thought.
Thanks for all the help guys

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General Magic / Re: Helping get a beginning player a better deck

« on: August 28, 2016, 12:35:47 am »

My dad also said that he would be interested in playing a relentless rats deck. Any one got any suggestions for a rats deck, I know that Ogre Slumlord is a good curve topper for rat decks.