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Standard Turbo Fog - Comments
« on: July 20, 2015, 07:32:03 am »
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Re: Standard Turbo Fog - Comments
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 07:32:03 am »
you can get away without having Day's Undoing in this budget variant of the deck but you NEED Alhammarret's Archive this is one of the main proponents of forcing the 8-16 card mills upon upkeep. Your upkeep with 2 Monastery Siege is a 5 card draw now. The opponent is now discarding 10 to 20 potential cards in a single upkeep instead of just 6-12. Day's Undoing being gone means you'll need to accelerate the process Alhammarret's Archive is the answer to this.

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Re: Standard Turbo Fog - Comments
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 08:38:37 am »
I don't think Days Undoing actually does anything for the deck. I'd much rather have more fogs, which is the whole point of Days Undoing in the first place (when you're out of fogs to find some more, assuming you didn't exile most when you treasure cruised). The deck also needed a better way to gain life which the prism rings allow you to do which come down much quicker than Orbs of Warding. You might even want to play all 4 of the 3 mana fog instead of 2 as well, but I wanted another pseudo-fog that cantripped which Hydrolash does (and for all intents and purposes against agro it pretty much is fog + draw). I'm not a big fan of the 5-6 mana spells that come down way later when you want their effect earlier in the game. If I have 5-8 mana, I'd much rather draw Fascination than Alhammarret's Archive.

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Re: Standard Turbo Fog - Comments
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 01:19:08 am »
Needs a way to kill Dragonlord Dromoka on opponents turn either in the main or sideboard, otherwise the fog strategy will fail as soon he comes out.

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Re: Standard Turbo Fog - Comments
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 10:23:26 am »
How should this deck work? Survile long enough to mill the opponent?

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Re: Standard Turbo Fog - Comments
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 03:50:32 pm »
This is the same list used in SCG's Chicago open used by Newland. It did fairly well, Day's Undoing while seeming counter productive actually did help him win several games by recycling his fogs back into his hand when he ran out. But ultimately Matthew is right, this has no answer for Dromoka and putting that on the table basically kills this deck. Still I kinda like it :-)

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Re: Standard Turbo Fog - Comments
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2015, 08:58:43 pm »
Learn from the Past would be preferable to Day's undoing.

On Dragonlord Dromoka: Plummet, Curse of the Swine, Vortex Elemental. In response to them playing Dromoka, cast a fog.
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