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Author Topic: this is the first deck i built its green and red. help?  (Read 872 times)

amesxgoesxrawr

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this is the first deck i built its green and red. help?
« on: February 16, 2014, 01:51:23 am »
Hi
I just started playing mtg two weeks ago what you guys think of my deck? Love to hear some feedback and o wanna see if its good or not
Thanks

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Re: this is the first deck i built its green and red. help?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2014, 03:31:50 pm »
First thing to note: You didn't include a link to your deck in the post. I was able to go find the deck by following a couple of links, but making people do extra work to help you out is generally a bad idea. To help out:

http://deckstats.net/decks/12921/66622-red-green-deck/en

Next thing: You need to cut some cards. Your maindeck has 67 cards in it and the general minimum for Constructed decks is 60. Going above the minimum can be reasonably done, but only for very specific purposes: stuff like Battle of Wits. You don't have that. Make some cuts. It'd probably be fine to go down to 24 land, but I'd look for non-creature spells to axe for the rest. (Edit: I probably should say why this is important, and I forgot to do so above. Playing with the smallest deck possible for your format is almost always the right call because you want to pull your best spells. A larger deck has a smaller chance of pulling their best spells. By definition, every card you add over 60 (for normal Constructed formats) is worse than your best 60 cards because it is preventing you from finding them.)

The rest of my answer depends on what you intend to do with the deck. As things stand, the deck is an unfocused mess of cards: that's bad. I won't criticize you for it since you are new to the game, but it still needs to be said. Looking at the deck, I don't think you have a plan for how you are going to win the game and as a result you'll probably lose often.

An example: Charging Badger is a build-around card. It has 1 power and trample, which doesn't do anything for a 1-power creature. It can be good if you want to enchant it a bunch or put +1/+1 counters on it (and don't want to get trample from elsewhere). That still isn't a great plan since you're asking to catch a Doom Blade, but it's still a plan. Your deck has only two cards that are capable of pulling it off though: Trollhide and Ivy Street Denizen. Since there are only two badgers and only two cards that can help it be relevant, that scenario will almost never happen. Without a plan to make the badgers do something, I'd take them out of the deck. (Note: I'm not counting Giant Growth or Phytoburst as enablers for the badger because they only happen once and still require creature combat to do anything of value.)

Where you should go from here depends on what you want to do, and I can't answer that for you. An aggro deck would depend more on creatures with low mana costs (you'd need to lose the Axebane Stags) and a bit of burn to help push you over the top. A midrange deck would start with mana-generating creatures like the elvish mystics and finish with larger creatures or spells. There are other archetypes, but that's a good enough place to start. Deciding between one of those two would help us guide you in a decent direction. Alternately, describe to us your vision of how you would like to win. Maybe you attack with seven creatures off a Gruul Charm and sweep through their defense. Maybe you make the hugest monster ever and beat down all of their defenders until they have nothing left. Something like that.

A final note for now: I'm assuming that your deck is for casual play with friends. If you want to take it to your local gamestore and participate in tournaments or something, you have bigger problems and we need to talk about formats (Standard vs Modern for instance).

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Re: this is the first deck i built its green and red. help?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2014, 08:04:11 pm »
There is qiute som stuff in it that works a bit, well not good together but hey try makening it and add new cards too it alon the way this way your deck becomens really good and you find out of what you like playing best. So did I start with a red and green deck quite like this in zendikar, and ended up with a strong green and a strong red deck afterwards + many red & green deck that i builded along the way on abilitys and flavours I like and one had in my deck. BTW my strongest deck is my green Path of Nature deck the first deck i ever build with was green & red.
So what I'm trying to say is build it modify it after some games when u find better/funner cards and have fun playing your one deck ;)
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Re: this is the first deck i built its green and red. help?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2014, 08:59:07 pm »
Thanks for your quick response :) your help is much appreciated. I'm gonna rebuild it

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Re: this is the first deck i built its green and red. help?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2014, 11:42:52 pm »
I made slight adjustments to my deck and brought new cards

12 forest
10 mountains

Creatures in ascending order of mana cost:24
2x sedge scorpion
2x Elvish mystic
4x kalonian kuster
2x deadly recluse
1x vast wood hydra
3x guttersnipe
1x wall of fire
1x bow of nylea
1x god of the hunt
1x god of the forge
1xghur clan rampager
2x Chandra nalaar
1x wood burn behemoth
1x nessian wilds ravanger
1x vulpine Goliath

Spells-15
2x shock
2x giant growth
2x fog
2x fall of the hammer
1x wild wood rebirth
2x predators rapport
2x troll hide
2 x howl of the night

Side board
Aerial predation
Thunderbolt
2xgrounded




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Re: this is the first deck i built its green and red. help?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2014, 03:06:30 pm »
Predator's Rapport is an awful card. There's probably a way to make it do something, but I'm not sure what that would be. Otherwise the deck looks much improved. Probably the next step is to go out and play with it. That will tell you more about what you want to do with it than we can. (Coming back to ask for advice is still reasonable, but nothing beats play experience.)