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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2017, 07:05:27 AM »
Hey guys like my description says, I'm new to magic and any advice would be great, TY

Ps. just lost to a white tokens deck :(

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2017, 08:44:58 AM »
I would suggest completing playset of blooming marsh regardless of other changes. I would also suggest upping the land count to 22/23. If you can get them, Hissing Quagmire is another good land.

Two ways to take this. Either heavier on energy, ore more +1/+1 counters.

For Energy, Greenbelt Rampager is a great one drop. Longtusk Cub is perfect for the deck in energy as it is both energy and +1/+1 counters. I would cut Armorcraft Judge and probably move Tireless Tracker to the sideboard. Even in an energy build, I'm not sure about Servant of the Conduit. I don't think you need to be running ramp creatures. Complete your playset of Aether Hub.

If you want to go harder on the counters, I would include Narnam Renegade or Gnarlwood Dryad as a one drop. Both strong Deathtouch creatures. I would also add more tireless trackers. Swap in Traverse the Ulvenwald in place of attune with aether. I'm a fan of Scrounging Bandar, as with Winding Constrictor out, the counter share ability means that the number of counters increase. Expensive upgrades could include Walking Ballista (amazing card, $12 is steep though), or Grim Flayer, in which case consider making it heavier on delirium, by including cards like Implement of Ferocity as an additional artifact. If you do this, I'd get rid of any cards which include energy.

For the sideboard, I include Lost Legacy vs Saheeli Combo, Scrapheap Scrounger or Tireless Tracker vs Control, Lifecrafter's Bestiary for grindy matches. Blossoming Defense is good (I even mainboard it sometimes), as is some form or artifact/enchantment removal, and Yahenni's Expertise. Ruinous Path is also probably better than Murder. I also include Ishkanah, Grafwidow in a more delirium oriented build, as it is great against fliers and tokens.

I might see if I can fit Drana into my build as it looks like a cool addition.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2017, 08:49:06 AM by vinx »

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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2017, 07:26:28 PM »
Hey, I'd suggest for lands if you can 4 blooming marshes and 2 hissing quiagmires and 4 aetherhubs (if you want to keep with energy theme). If you want agro 21-22 lands is best and mid-range 23-24.
In terms of creatures it depends on budget. 4 Walking balistas is always great. Id suggest dropping the armourcraft Judge and glint-sleeve siphoner. Armourcraft doesn't win your games and the siphoner doesn't really fit. Then you'd have a free slot for an extra creature or to put towards a land.

Spells-I think your okay but it depends on local meta.

Sideboard is good but you need an answer for saheeli combo. You have one answer which is to the slaughter. Another would be lost legacy but again depends on local meta.

Hope this helps! 

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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 10:48:12 PM »
@griffandco @vinx thank you for the advice, I will start working on revisions.
After playing for just a little while I realized I was trying to do to many things at once, spreading into +1 and energy counters. I will probably steer more towards the +1/+1 counters.

I have been thinking about dropping the glint-sleeve siphoner (although I love the card draw on her) and getting rid of Servant of the Conduit.

As for not finishing off the blooming marsh or picking up hissing quiagmires, I was trying to keep my cost as low as I could while still having a working deck. I skipped those lands to get tireless tracker and still fit my budget.

Blossoming Defense will be put into the main board. Thanks for the advice


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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 02:52:37 AM »
If I do settle for more of a +1 counters deck, should I replace Bristling Hydra ? it kinda has the best of both worlds, and the hexproof has saved me quite a few times in MTGO. But if I take out most of my energy counter abilities, glint-sleeve siphoner, servant of the conduit, and attune with aether (which have been suggested to be removed) than I will never really have enough energy counters to use bristling hydra effectively more than once. Thanks again for any and all advice.

So what would be a good 4 drop replacement for +1/+1 counters budgetwise? (outside the obvious choices of completing the playset of Nissa, verdurous gearhulk, or adding in 4 walking ballistas)

ps. are evolving wilds the best way to get lands into your graveyard?

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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2017, 12:49:17 AM »
@Flavin

If your looking to go down  the counters route you have the winding constrictor you can look into. Not worth too much in terms of budget.

Unfortunately there's no real 4 drop replacement. What I'd recommend looking into is a more go wide strategy. So you build up your board state then slowly buff it up by putting counters on it. So rather than Bristling hydra being the win con as soon as its dropped it's multiple creatures with high amounts of damage.
it can be expensive but there are ways to make it cheap. Obviously walking walking ballistas are like the best option but with the 2 verdurous gearhulks you own and nissas  it isnt too bad. Its just shifting the focus.

Definately look at having the bloosming defense main board if there's a lot of control/kill spell decks in your local meta.

A budget one drop could be narnam renegade? Can get counters on it and then putting more onto it never hurts.

Depends on whether you want a delirum style deck. Wilds are great in casual delirum decks but ones that really want delirum early have things like grapple to the past, vessel of nascency etc. But if you only need a few in grave wilds are good

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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2017, 02:29:48 PM »
Modern has many more options when it comes to black green.
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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 05:54:58 AM »
Thanks again for all the comments, check out my updated deck, mad some changes that were suggested.
Also when it comes to Rishkar, peema Renegade do I have his purpose all wroung? it dawned on me the other day that most likely the reason he is in BG counters is to allow your creautres to really buff walking ballista. so should I scrap the peema?

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Re: G/B advice needed. - Comments
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2017, 11:04:50 AM »
Greenwheel Liberator could be faster.

Been playing with this deck for a while now on MTGO and doing well in the just for fun section, since its not really a comp deck. And lately ive been getting yelled at by people saying this deck is comp and unacceptable in the "just for fun". Some1 told me this, mean while have 2x chandras in their deck. Sure I understand hypocracy but to many people sweep at turn 6 or 7 and its not even fun.
How can I bridge the gap between this deck being fun and a lil more comp heavy?