Rivals of Ixalan (Spoilers)

[WWolfe]

This is a better than usual set for EDH. I came up with my list of cards to acquire and am currently at 23 cards to put into my 11 EDH decks though 3 are repeats that are going into different decks.

Purphoros, which almost never gets any new toys, along with Edgar appear to be the big winners right now with five new cards in consideration for moving into each deck. Talrand will be looking at three. Sidisi, Animar, & Skullbriar two each, while Saskia, Daxos, & Ob Nixlis will each be trying one each. Only Tajic & Sliver Overlord are left in the cold.

Even the new deck I'm currently working out a build for (Polukranos) has a few cards I'm considering for it.

[robort]

I wouldn't say some cards aren't for standard but then again look at most sets anyway and see how many are actually used competitively for standard? Just like any other set most of these cards won't see the sun of day in standard. I do like this set more over Ixaxlan, just has a better feel compared to Ixalan. Now EDH got more help in Ixaxlan then this set so far anyway

[G. Moto]

Well if you think about it, Standard is basically the cash crop of magic. New stuff comes out, the competitive players have more tools in their arsenals, and people have more to watch and more ways to play. Formats like modern and EDH don't really change too much so cards geared for those formats rarely come out in a general set. Think about it, how often do you get cards designed around having 40+ life in a usual MTG set? IF a card screams "use me in commander" then it'll be more than likely obvious.

[Soren841]

Blood Sun removes the ability that makes lands enter tapped.. bounce lands anyone?

[CardAgain Sweater]

Blood Sun removes the ability that makes lands enter tapped.. bounce lands anyone?

I'm not sure, but I think bounce lands like rakdos carnarium still enter tapped (not an ability) and you still bounce a land, as that is more of a cost than an ability.

That is my take on what it 'feels like' it should do,  not a judge.

[Soren841]

It doesn't say a cost. They're ETB ABILITIES

[G. Moto]

Just did some research on your topic. This is what I found:
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/513988-blood-moon-and-tapped-lands

[Soren841]

It does still improve the bounce lands tho, and hoses fetches deserts etc

[Soren841]

Fortunately I run Chromatic Lantern alongside fetches in EDH so if I do hose my fetches i can tutor up lantern and it's all good again

[G. Moto]

@Soren841, considering the influx of cards that are coming out what effect do you think that this will have on the standard? Almost anything can be played in EDH, but both Standard and Modern are carefully constructive formats where the deck you build have to be perfectly suitable for the cards being used. For example, forerunner of the heralds would be great in an edh deck simply because the sheer number of spells and creature production that you could do in that kind of deck. However the same creature may not grow so large or be as potent in a standard deck unless the deck is specifically geared towards abusing its ETB filed effect.

[robort]

From Magic the Gathering Website on Blood Moon

3/14/2017
If a nonbasic land has an ability that triggers “when” it enters the battlefield, it will lose that ability before it triggers.

9/29/2017
If a nonbasic land has an ability that causes it to enter the battlefield tapped, it lose will that ability before it applies. The same is also true of any other abilities that modify how a land enters the battlefield or apply “as” a land enters the battlefield, such as the first ability of Cavern of Souls. This is a change from previous rulings.

So take out the word non basic and leave land, I am certain that these same rules would apply to Blood Sun as Blood Moon

[G. Moto]

Thank you Robort, that really helps.

[Soren841]

So I'm correct then?

[G. Moto]

yes, by the ruing that Robort presented; dual lands will enter untapped and lose any extra abilities.

[Soren841]

Reading the cards tells me that's correct.. But logic says it's not because I doubt that Wizards meant it to do that. Maybe they just didn't think of it and were focusing mostly on standard, the flip lands and deserts