Syr Gwyn Revisited (7/20/2022)

[Jesterskull]

As a tech choice i'd recommend swapping out Zurzoth, Chaos Rider for the black enchantment tainted Remedy. Zurzoth does make bodies but they have no type, and he makes you discard randomly which means you might accidentally throw away combo pieces in your hand. If you want efficiency in your plays and consistency in your execution you want to avoid the confusion and randomness (unless the chaos IS the theme of the deck). By adding tainted remedy you keep opponents from gaining life and any life-linkers they may have will actually hurt them too. With your angel of destiny and this enchantment then you can mow down people's life totals. This also helps you because you're focusing on combat so the last thing you want is them gaining life on you since you have to swing every turn to keep them in check. Also if life gain is a win condition for you then you might also want to add true conviction. This way your knights hit a bit harder on the battlefield AND you get some life link as well. What are your thoughts on this?

I tried running those in testing.... but ended up in a direction I didn't want. Look with AoD, I think I am gonna get more use of her ability to get hits then her win condition (Triggering a lot of combos and "trust"). And I actually like Zurzoth for other combos, and if I discard any combo piece, well this is an re-animator deck. Like Burning Inquiry, you just have to calculate when to use it.

[G. Moto]

I understand where you're coming from. Then perhaps you can add creatures that have auto sac or discard outlets? This way you can get your creatures in the yard quickly and recur them that way. One combo i came up was running Chainer, Nightmare Adept with my Hell's caretaker in my Sedris, The Traitor King EDH deck. Untap, upkeep, discard a creature you want in the yard, then tap the caretaker to sac a token (your devil token would be best), bring out your big beater for essentially free, then you can STILL cast another creature from your yard. Double the reanimation before you even draw for turn. This combo also works with Kroxa, titan of death's hunger because you can keep recurring him for card advantage without having to pay the escape cost or exile any cards. How does that sound?

[Jesterskull]

Wheeling not a discard outlet?

[Jesterskull]

I understand where you're coming from. Then perhaps you can add creatures that have auto sac or discard outlets? This way you can get your creatures in the yard quickly and recur them that way. One combo i came up was running Chainer, Nightmare Adept with my Hell's caretaker in my Sedris, The Traitor King EDH deck. Untap, upkeep, discard a creature you want in the yard, then tap the caretaker to sac a token (your devil token would be best), bring out your big beater for essentially free, then you can STILL cast another creature from your yard. Double the reanimation before you even draw for turn. This combo also works with Kroxa, titan of death's hunger because you can keep recurring him for card advantage without having to pay the escape cost or exile any cards. How does that sound?

What about Knight of the Ebon Legion + Sidisi, Undead Vizier Switched out from replacing Sangine Guard and Demonic Tutor?

[Jesterskull]

Addition of another sac outlet by suggestion. (Still waiting to visual edit)


Revision 174

Added/removed cards:
-1 Demonic Tutor
-1 Sanguine Guard
+1 Knight of the Ebon Legion
+1 Sidisi, Undead Vizier

[Jesterskull]

Adding Helm of the host back in


Revision 175

Added/removed cards:
-1 Sigiled Sword of Valeron
+1 Helm of the Host

[Jesterskull]

Helltaker addition


Revision 176

Added/removed cards:
-1 Liliana's Standard Bearer
+1 Hell's Caretaker

[Jesterskull]

Adding some different spell lands


Revision 177

Added/removed cards:
-1 "Best Rider, Sky Temple" // "Sky Temple"
-1 Pelakka Predation // Pelakka Caverns
+1 Agadeem's Awakening // Agadeem, the Undercrypt
+1 Ondu Inversion // Ondu Skyruins

[Jesterskull]

Last minute changes, reverting some stuff because I didn't like Helltaker.


Revision 178

Added/removed cards:
-1 Agadeem's Awakening // Agadeem, the Undercrypt
-1 Hell's Caretaker
-1 Helm of the Host
-1 Ondu Inversion // Ondu Skyruins
-1 Sidisi, Undead Vizier
+1 Basilisk Collar
+1 Blackbloom Rogue // Blackbloom Bog
+1 Order of Midnight // Alter Fate
+1 Rankle, Master of Pranks
+1 Sejiri Shelter // Sejiri Glacier

[G. Moto]

Not saying that wheeling isn't discarding, but keep in mind that you do give your opponents cards when you wheel as well. Typically when i do discard cards i have the source be something that i can control more easily and constructively like with a key to the city or sorts. That's all i mean.

[Jesterskull]

Forgot to change a knight in last


Revision 179

Added/removed cards:
-1 Knight of the Ebon Legion
+1 Liliana's Standard Bearer

[Jesterskull]

Needed a bomb, enter the prince


Revision 180

Added/removed cards:
-1 Basilisk Collar
+1 Westvale Abbey // Ormendahl, Profane Prince

[Jesterskull]

Decided I would get better use out of Batterskull then Mimic Vat


Revision 181

Added/removed cards:
-1 Mimic Vat
+1 Batterskull

[Jesterskull]

Switching up tactics


Revision 182

Added/removed cards:
-1 Scavenger Grounds
-1 Skyknight Vanguard
-1 Syr Konrad, the Grim
+1 Maze of Ith
+1 Phylactery Lich
+1 Truefire Captain

[Jesterskull]

Debated on which Tutor I could get away with, with out unbalancing the colors


Revision 183

Added/removed cards:
-1 Phylactery Lich
+1 Beseech the Queen