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Nils

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Improved Card Prices
« on: January 12, 2020, 07:03:30 pm »
I have just made some changes to our price database to improve the completeness and accuracy of our card prices.

In particular, we should now have better TCGPlayer prices for all the different versions of cards, including most promos, tokens, etc. We are also now showing the TCGPlayer "market price" where available, which should be a more accurate than the previous median prices were.

I have also fixed a few missing prices from our other price sources, such as Card Kingdom, Cardhoarder and Cardmarket.

If you have previously noticed some cards that were not being priced correctly, please have another look at them now and let me know if they have improved.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 10:26:38 pm by Nils »

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Re: Improved Card Prices
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2020, 01:40:16 am »
Why is there sometimes a big difference in the shown deck price when sorting the folder a deck is in by price and when looking at the in detail view?

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Re: Improved Card Prices
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2020, 04:13:51 pm »
I would like (either as a replacement or as an option) to be able to see Cardmarket trend prices rather than Cardmarket low, as that is more likely to reflect what I will actually end up paying for the cards when all is said and done, and is generally what people who use Cardmarket use as their baseline when trading cards between them the old-fashioned way.

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Re: Improved Card Prices
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2020, 05:59:40 pm »
some prices makes no sense since it checks for the art cards instead of the real card in modern horizon

Nils

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Re: Improved Card Prices
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2020, 09:18:20 pm »
Why is there sometimes a big difference in the shown deck price when sorting the folder a deck is in by price and when looking at the in detail view?
The deck prices in the search are calculated assuming you are playing the most basic (cheapest) version of each card. The prices on the deck page may be higher if the author is playing cards from a more expensive set. So for example if someone has a deck with a promo in it, the price displayed in the search will be lower because it just uses the non-promo price, while the deck page will use the promo price.

Does this explain what you are seeing? If you are noticing discrepancies that are not fully explained by this please let me know.

some prices makes no sense since it checks for the art cards instead of the real card in modern horizon
Can you tell me an example or two so that I can check this?

I would like (either as a replacement or as an option) to be able to see Cardmarket trend prices rather than Cardmarket low, as that is more likely to reflect what I will actually end up paying for the cards when all is said and done, and is generally what people who use Cardmarket use as their baseline when trading cards between them the old-fashioned way.
Happy to go which whatever people prefer. I just made a quick poll here to see what the consensus is: https://deckstats.net/forum/index.php/topic,51896.0.html

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Re: Improved Card Prices
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2020, 09:29:55 pm »
Why is there sometimes a big difference in the shown deck price when sorting the folder a deck is in by price and when looking at the in detail view?
The deck prices in the search are calculated assuming you are playing the most basic (cheapest) version of each card. The prices on the deck page may be higher if the author is playing cards from a more expensive set. So for example if someone has a deck with a promo in it, the price displayed in the search will be lower because it just uses the non-promo price, while the deck page will use the promo price.

Does this explain what you are seeing? If you are noticing discrepancies that are not fully explained by this please let me know.

In the detail view for my Izzet Phoenix deck, it's showing the total price as $203.05; I haven't set any specific printings for any cards, so it should be choosing the cheapest printing for everything (if that's the default here, too). However, in the folder view, the price is showing as $174.28: https://imgur.com/dHC6xss

It'd be understandable if it was a small discrepancy that could be explained away by when the numbers were pulled, but that difference seems too large.

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Re: Improved Card Prices
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2020, 05:50:02 pm »
Certain cards from Commander sets show the Card Kingdom price for the oversized foil versions, not the playable versions. (Ex. Estrid, the Masked and Saheeli, the Gifted)

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Re: Improved Card Prices
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2020, 07:53:06 pm »
In the detail view for my Izzet Phoenix deck, it's showing the total price as $203.05; I haven't set any specific printings for any cards, so it should be choosing the cheapest printing for everything (if that's the default here, too). However, in the folder view, the price is showing as $174.28: https://imgur.com/dHC6xss

It'd be understandable if it was a small discrepancy that could be explained away by when the numbers were pulled, but that difference seems too large.
Thank you for the example, I'll have a look if I can improve things. At the moment the price shown on the deck page will always be the more reliable one.

Certain cards from Commander sets show the Card Kingdom price for the oversized foil versions, not the playable versions. (Ex. Estrid, the Masked and Saheeli, the Gifted)
Will look into these as well, thanks!