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Author Topic: Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments  (Read 329 times)

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Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments
« on: August 30, 2022, 05:14:05 pm »

KingKia

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Re: Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2022, 05:14:05 pm »
Hi  Jocavipi,
the primer seems to be a copy of https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ilvW7g3hsUio09K2gLuDmg/primer
I don't know why you want to copy a primer and sell it as your own primer.

I know that cedh decks with the same commander play 80-85% the same cards. But it's very weak to simply copy and paste a primer from someone else.

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Re: Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2022, 04:24:38 pm »
Hi KingKia, I wasn't trying to sell the Primer description as my own, I build the deck with some changes and used the primer you talk about as a good description for how the deck works, obviously adding the changes I made to the deck, but you are right it can be seen like that, I've put a disclaimer on the description where the source came from, I hope that clarifies your point

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Re: Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2022, 05:18:44 pm »
Hi Jocavipi,
no offense but a primer is a hard work and if you using shapers primer, you should also give him some credits at least. I also saw that you made some changes but most of the deck seems to based on shapers deck, which is absolutely ok but adding a link into your description would be fair since you saved a lot of work regarding the primer and the deck.
So thanks for understanding and adding the link.


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Re: Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2022, 05:22:22 pm »
Sure, I completly agree, the link is already up in the description and I'm adding credits to Shaper as well.

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Re: Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2022, 08:41:51 pm »
Hi Jocavipi,

I like very much your deck, I can see why you prefer using Yisan over Selvala.

Can you elaborate on why you don't play exploration and use burgeoning instead?

Also, why do you play cards like umbral mantle and staff of domination that are primarily cards to go infinite with selvala type decks instead of using more stax pieces to help develop yisan ability?

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Re: Yisan's Balad (cEDH) - Comments
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2022, 09:19:51 pm »
Hi Jocavipi,

I like very much your deck, I can see why you prefer using Yisan over Selvala.

Can you elaborate on why you don't play exploration and use burgeoning instead?

Also, why do you play cards like umbral mantle and staff of domination that are primarily cards to go infinite with selvala type decks instead of using more stax pieces to help develop yisan ability?

Hi Gmacoor,

Thanks! I also love Yisan because it has from my perspective way more interaction and combo lines that Selvala.

Answering your questions:

- I don't play Exploration because Burgeoning lets me play a land in every player turn when they play a land, in a low land deck like this, this ability works and gets exploited if I'm bouncing my forests to untap Yisan with something like Quirion Ranger, this keeps me going in each opponent turn.
- I play Umbral Mantle and Staff of Domination because if I have them in my starting hand or I draw them early in the game I can go for Selvala, Heart of the Wilds in Verse 3 and go infinite. With infinite mana I can then tap and untap Yisan infinitely for the win.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2022, 09:23:20 pm by Jocavipi »