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[thesilencedandseated]

I've run this deck. Any removal in the first couple turns actually wins your opponent the game.

[segomeri]

I think if you don't draw a land, then the efect of goblin charbelcher doesn't work because you have not done the first part of the hability (to reveal UNTIL you draw a card)

[ozfan2]

charbelcher will just flip your deck and hit for that much, doesn't need a land to reveal.

[falconblade123]

It does need a land to reveal. If it doesn't find one, it will have just flipped through your deck for no reason. Unless it finds a land it will deal no damage.

[falconblade123]

Nevermind. I just did a quick check and was proven wrong. Disregard my earlier comment.

[Arushat]

The mana gaint from Geosurge can't be used to activate the Goblin Charbelcher.
Even though i like the deck idea.

[mick-red]

is not necessary to reveal a land to win infact charbelcher in legacy use only a land that could be tutored by land grant. i don't understand why i can't use the mana of geosurge to activate goblin charbelcher ability.

[Arushat]

Geosurge only lets you cast the spell, you can't use the 3 mana left to activate the ability. The card won't allow it

[mick-red]

oh yes i didn't read the card well this could be a problem in any case this deck is only an experiment, it we will never competitive except for the case of chrome mox  unbanned but i'm not sure for this.

[mick-red]

i would probably change geosurge with something else.