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PCONeill

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Hardened Scales + Test of Faith
« em: Outubro 26, 2016, 12:09:28 am »
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« Última modificação: Janeiro 28, 2017, 03:58:40 pm por PCONeill »

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Re: Hardened Scales + Test of Faith
« Responder #1 em: Outubro 26, 2016, 12:17:24 am »
I believe Test of Faith is one trigger and then Hardened Scales gives you "that many (3 in this case)  plus one +1/+1 counter". 

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Re: Hardened Scales + Test of Faith
« Responder #2 em: Outubro 26, 2016, 12:44:39 am »
NOTE: ALL OF THIS IS ALSO ASSUMING THE ATTACKING CREATURE HAS FIRST/DOUBLE STRIKE. Since Fabled Hero has Double Strike, a normal attacking creature would never deal damage to it.

It would add one counter, since all three +1/+1 counters from Test of Faith would be added at the same time.

2/2 Fabled Hero
Targeted by Test of Faith
Fabled Hero becomes 4/4 from its own trigger and Hardened Scales
Fabled Hero Blocks 3/3 and Test of Faith absorbs 2 damage.
Fabled hero becomes a 8/8 after test of faith adds 3 and hardened scales adds one +1/+1 counter.



If, in your example, the 3/3 was a 2/2, then your opponent cast Scouring Sands, Fabled Hero would get an extra +1/+1 counter.

Start:
2/2 Fabled Hero
Targeted by Test of Faith
Fabled Hero becomes 4/4 from its own trigger and Hardened Scales
Fabled Hero Blocks 2/2 and Test of Faith absorbs 2 damage.
Fabled hero becomes a 7/7 after test of faith adds 2 and hardened scales adds one +1/+1 counter.
opponent casts scouring sands
Test of Faith absorbs the one damage from scouring sands (it's up to 3 and end of turn)
Fabled Hero becomes a 9/9 after getting one counter from Test of Faith and one counter from Hardened Scales.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Hardened Scales + Test of Faith
« Responder #3 em: Outubro 26, 2016, 05:55:49 pm »
It's a matter of how the damage is done. If each damage of the three is done individually, Test of Faith would add a counter for each damage. If the three damage is done all at once, then the counters are all applied at once and Hardened Scales only triggers once.
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Re: Hardened Scales + Test of Faith
« Responder #4 em: Outubro 26, 2016, 08:52:28 pm »
I agree completely with Ladof, but want to make his first sentence disclaimer a little clearer.

1. when the 3/3 soldier token (vanilla 3/3, no first strike or double-strike) attacks, you declare Fabled Hero as the blocker.
2. you cast Test of Faith, targeting Fabled Hero.
3. Fabled hero Heroic triggers, as does Hardened Scales, making it a 4/4 double strike.
4. First strike damage is dealt and the 3/3 token dies
5. Test of Faith never goes off since Fabled Hero receives no damage.

Now, if you wanted to get the maximum (realisitic) benefit out of Test of Faith, you can let the first-strike damage occur, then cast Test of Faith so that Fabled hero gets all the counters as Ladof describes.

And to answer your original questions, in the case of combat, Hardened scales would only give 1 additional counter since all the damage is dealt at once. In theory you could get the full 6 +1/+1 counters if the damage was dealt individually (as described below).

Let's pretend instead of a 3/3 soldier, you're facing a 1/6 double strike creature (not even sure this exists but just go with it). It attacks, you block with Fabled Hero and Cast Test of Faith, like before, it becomes a 4/4 double strike.

Now first strike damage happens, and Test of Faith prevents 1, giving you 2 +1/+1 counters thanks to Hardened Scales.

Before regular damage, you tap your Goblin Sharpshooter (sweet deck man :P) and deal 1 damage to Fabled Hero, giving him 2 +1/+1 counters.

Then regular damage is dealt, and another 2 counters are added to Fabled Hero, making him a 10/10 double strike and capable of swinging for lethal on crack-back.

Hope that clears things up :)
Good Luck!
« Última modificação: Outubro 27, 2016, 03:50:22 pm por KouriNick »
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