Best ramp spells

[WWolfe]

Pretty self-explanatory.

[Soren841]

Nature's Lore is an objectively better Three Visits lol

[WWolfe]

Not really big on mana dorks unless they totally fit the deck (Rishkar, Animar, etc.). Love mana rocks in non-green decks but I prefer green ramp spells. Harder to get rid of lands than it is most other types of ramp.

Personally I love Nature's Lore, Cultivate, and Kodama's Reach.

[Soren841]

Mana dorks go in literally every deck with green, sorry xd. Even in green, mana rocks are the shit. The only good land ramp spells are three visits and nature's lore (obviously the same but three visits is money because of its set). As a Tatyova player it's hard but I admit it because Tatyova makes them viable c: obviously I speak from a more competitive viewpoint

[WWolfe]

Don't get me wrong, I run mana rocks in basically every deck I own but in my meta lands are much more likely to stick (most people do run Strip Mine or one of it's variants but they're usually saved for Gaea's Cradle, Cabal Coffers, etc.). Mana dorks I'm just not big on. They're by far the easiest to remove of any form of ramp.

ETA- there is a high number of board wipes ran in this meta, so that's partially what my opinion is based on atm.

[Soren841]

The problem with land ramp is the most efficient it gets is 1 for 2 mana and that's specific to forests. Mana rocks are like 2 mana for 0 so it's kinda hard to beat that.

[WWolfe]

I'm not saying mana rocks suck, I'm just saying that land ramp is more likely to not get destroyed.

[Firegriff]

To be honest, I am surprised that Cryptolith Rite and Song of Freyalise have not yet been mentioned.  Or, for Sliver players, gemhide sliver.

[Morganator 2.0]

You both must see that this is a difference of metas right?

Soren841, you're used to faster games. You don't need to worry about boardwipes, because those are late-game cards that might not even show up. But you need to start the mana ramp turn 1, which is why Chrome Mox, Mox Diamond, and Birds of Paradise are essential.

WWolf, mass creature removal is a thing in your games. While no one will ever target Elvish Mystic with Doom Blade, it might get caught in the crossfire from Damnation. Lands don't have this drawback, and because it's a slower game, you can afford to ramp on turn 3 instead of 1.

[Soren841]

I mean yeah I even said that 🤷‍♂️ the main problem w land ramp is inefficiency lol. I'd use it WITH other ramp but by the time I'm finished with other ramp I won't need more 😂😂

[WWolfe]

I use both spells & rocks, it just depends on the deck which I lean more heavily on.

I will say, I use to go with some dorks but upon moving to this meta with the heaviness on sweeps I had to change that philosophy.