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Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« em: Junho 17, 2019, 03:44:31 pm »
Whirling Thopter of Doom

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #1 em: Junho 17, 2019, 03:44:31 pm »
If anybody has suggestions - please feel free to share them. I appreciate any criticism or ideas.

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #2 em: Junho 17, 2019, 03:58:10 pm »
Hmm.. I would recommend to clean up your creatures a little, for some more ramp and equipments.
Wall of Spears, Skyscanner and Ornithopter out, Mind Stone (Mana), Assault Suit (protection from sacrifice) and Inquisitor's Flail (for tons of damage) or Sword of the Animist (ramp) in.

Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho doesn't seem to make sense, since your topter isn't a samurai. What about Masterwork of Ingenuity or Banshee's Blade in stead?
« Última modificação: Junho 17, 2019, 04:36:22 pm por Judaspriester »
You say Prison Cell, I hear 'Holiday'.

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #3 em: Junho 17, 2019, 04:11:35 pm »
Thank you Judaspriester for the suggestions. Much appreciated!

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #4 em: Junho 17, 2019, 09:52:15 pm »
Clock of Omens should be pretty good in this deck (use the equipments to untap ypur manarocks)
Mask of Memory and Rogue' Gloves are nice to keep your hand full.
Emergence Zone helps to play around countermagic.

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #5 em: Junho 17, 2019, 10:28:29 pm »
Thank you Dealda. I considered Mask of Memory to keep draw power in the deck, I still might add them in. Clock of Omens is pretty good too, but I was thinking of possibly adding unwinding clock. If I add them though, then I have to figure out what I should remove to make room. Hard decisions. Thanks for the input.

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #6 em: Junho 18, 2019, 11:04:25 am »
If you need a slot, I think Ghirapur Orrery would be a good option, since it could help your opponents way more than you.

Greatsword could be replaced with Loxodon Warhammer. same CMC but you also get trample and lifelink. ;)

Deathrender could also be replaced. the effect is nice, but you're lacking scary creatures that could be cheated in with it and 6 mana for +2/+2 is to expensive.

Then I've taken a look for some other equipments:
O-Naginata
Vulshok Battlegear
Barbed Battlegear
Sword of Kaldra

current equipments that could be replaced:
Ogre's Cleaver (cmc 7 for +5/+0, I've mentioned more cost efficient options above)
Worldslayer (very conditional, since you need stuff like Darksteel Plate to make real use of it and you lack of tutors to make this a consistent win condition)

Btw, the important numbers for the power of your commander are 7, 11 and 21 (3, 2 or 1 hit in order to kill someone with commander damage). the numbers in between aren't that important since they tend to produce overkill damage.
You say Prison Cell, I hear 'Holiday'.

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #7 em: Junho 18, 2019, 02:39:29 pm »
If you need a slot, I think Ghirapur Orrery would be a good option, since it could help your opponents way more than you.

Greatsword could be replaced with Loxodon Warhammer. same CMC but you also get trample and lifelink. ;)

Deathrender could also be replaced. the effect is nice, but you're lacking scary creatures that could be cheated in with it and 6 mana for +2/+2 is to expensive.

Then I've taken a look for some other equipments:
O-Naginata
Vulshok Battlegear
Barbed Battlegear
Sword of Kaldra

current equipments that could be replaced:
Ogre's Cleaver (cmc 7 for +5/+0, I've mentioned more cost efficient options above)
Worldslayer (very conditional, since you need stuff like Darksteel Plate to make real use of it and you lack of tutors to make this a consistent win condition)

Btw, the important numbers for the power of your commander are 7, 11 and 21 (3, 2 or 1 hit in order to kill someone with commander damage). the numbers in between aren't that important since they tend to produce overkill damage.

That is a good recommendation for removal. Thank you for more of your suggestions, I actually own some of those cards you recommended Judaspriester. I went through my collection and found them while searching for possible other artifacts or equipment to use. I really wish I could afford equipment like the Sword of Fire and Ice or Sword of Feast and Famine. Unfortunately, those are a little pricy at the moment. I agree with Worldslayer being overly conditional, but I have managed to get the weapon out with Darksteel Plate once out of the five times I have played it thus far. It is uncommon but decently humorous to me to keep in (I know there are better choices for a more practical or aggressive Voltron). :P
« Última modificação: Junho 18, 2019, 02:54:46 pm por Reyane »

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #8 em: Junho 18, 2019, 02:58:49 pm »
I know that there are better options for voltron (like the swords), but I usually try to keep the budget in mind, if I make suggestions.

Btw, I've just calculated: Assuming you'll need Worldslayer and Darksteel Plate or Darksteel Forge to make use of this, you've got a 5.2% chance to draw this until turn 10. I haven't taken the Ring of three Wishes into account, but he won't change the chances that much. If you still want to keep this, its fine. ;)
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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #9 em: Junho 18, 2019, 03:07:00 pm »
I know that there are better options for voltron (like the swords), but I usually try to keep the budget in mind, if I make suggestions.

Btw, I've just calculated: Assuming you'll need Worldslayer and Darksteel Plate or Darksteel Forge to make use of this, you've got a 5.2% chance to draw this until turn 10. I haven't taken the Ring of three Wishes into account, but he won't change the chances that much. If you still want to keep this, its fine. ;)

5.2% is still not bad for a once in a while game shutdown. Not something I want to overly abuse and use anyway. :P
Ring of Three Wishes I have in there for emergency "Oh God I need this now!!!" situations, but it is expensive and not the most convenient tutor. There was a time when I was younger when the budget wasn't as important to me, but sadly Magic: The Gathering can't pay for college. :)

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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #10 em: Junho 18, 2019, 11:06:24 pm »
6-18-19 Update:

- greatsword                + Loxodon Warhammer
- Infiltrator's Lense       + Staff of Nin
- Ogre's Cleaver           + God-pharoah's statue
- Blinkmoth Urn           + Vulkshok Battlegear
- Jatendae Tome          + Rogue's Gloves
- Ghirapur Orrery         + Clock of Omens
- Deathrender              + Sword of Truth and Justice
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Re: Whirling Thopter of Doom - Comments
« Responder #11 em: Junho 19, 2019, 06:14:54 am »