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Autor Thema: No Dungeons, just some Dragons, Wizards and that one Artificer with all the stuff.  (Gelesen 790 mal)

Akatzki

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Hi All, i'm relatively new to EDH and this here is a deck i've been working on for the past few weeks.

Looking for suggestions on improvements / wincons.
It's a really jank deck that does a little bit of everything and i'm not entirely sure what to focus on.

No Dungeons, just some Dragons, Wizards and that one Artificer with all the stuff.

Thanks :>

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Re: No Dungeons, just some Dragons, Wizards and that one Artificer with all the stuff.
« Antwort #1 am: September 23, 2022, 06:38:40 Nachmittag »
I can try to give you some suggestions, but first thing is that 25 lands are super low and very greedy for a commander deck. I would recommend having 37 lands as games where you don't get to play because you don't have enough lands are not fun and we want as few as possible of those games. I would recommend not going under 35 lands if you want to be greedy with  your land count, but it's up to you.

After you have fixed you low land count, try to group your cards with the "Create custom subsection" button to make it easier for others to look through your deck an see what you want the deck to do.

For Card suggestions, if you don't give a direction for what you want the deck to do or what you like about the deck, than it becomes very hard to give good suggestions.

If you fix the land situation and give the deck a direction than I will comment again with some cards suggestions, but you can also find many great suggestions on EDHREC.com
Am I even playing EDH if there is no dragons in the deck?

Akatzki

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Re: No Dungeons, just some Dragons, Wizards and that one Artificer with all the stuff.
« Antwort #2 am: September 23, 2022, 10:25:06 Nachmittag »
Hiya,

I get that I have a low land count, but It's actually fairly well supplemented by the fact that Jhoira can just pull my mana rocks onto the board for free. (It's worked fairly well so far)

But as for what i'm going for... I'm really looking for direction suggestions.

I'm really just trying to add more synergy as there's 3 main things im dipping into.

- I've got a lot of card draw, and a few triggers that work with that and hand size.
- The Artifacts are really there as buffer there to support and do some crazy things.
- There's also a decent amount spell synergy of as well to help with control / utility.

I don't want to dip into mill because I hate that, and I want to avoid turning it into a pure artifact deck because it would end games too quickly...

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Re: No Dungeons, just some Dragons, Wizards and that one Artificer with all the stuff.
« Antwort #3 am: September 23, 2022, 10:59:53 Nachmittag »
Sure, Jhoira is effectively a form of ramp in the command zone, so you can do things like play her turn two, then next turn you tap her to put out a two-mana rock and still have your lands, maybe play another rock. But what happens if she gets killed? She doesn’t have haste, and you’re liable to be stuck on a pretty low number of lands. Your average CMC is 3.33 which isn’t unusually low, and you don’t really have a lot of fast mana; you’re using a lot of three-mana rocks which frankly don’t really cut it these days.

Personally I quite like to cut some lands and add some rocks. You can also use things like the MDFC lands if you want to squeeze more out. 25 is just way too low for this kind of deck (i.e. not a super-fast competitive type deck), though, like ten lands too low.

It’s also not super-clear to me what your plan is. Having weaker cards can be fine if you’re not aiming to make the most super deck, and sometimes “generic goodstuff” works too. However there are a lot of things here that don’t seem to have any obvious synergy with any particular strategy. Having a sort of “mission statement” for your deck might help. You’ve said you’re not sure what to focus on; I suggest trying to figure that out, first.

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Re: No Dungeons, just some Dragons, Wizards and that one Artificer with all the stuff.
« Antwort #4 am: September 24, 2022, 03:24:18 Vormittag »
Ok, I'll look into cutting some stuff for real lands. (But honestly though, I've either been really lucky, or my card draw has been keeping up well enough finding more lands.

This deck definitely is meant for fun, just trying to make it a little faster and flow better.

My initial "game plan" was chaos, as this started off as a dice roll deck... and i've trimmed a lot of it and focused it in to... well actually work.

I realize now though that the chaos theme is still kind of there with some of the weird combos i've been pulling off.

It doesnt do much beyond that. I find myself between turns either drawing or just chilling/ramping if I don't draw something 'interesting'.

I'm inexperienced in this whole thing at the moment, so I really don't know where to go from here. I just wanted the deck to do cool stuff.


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Re: No Dungeons, just some Dragons, Wizards and that one Artificer with all the stuff.
« Antwort #5 am: September 24, 2022, 03:24:38 Nachmittag »
Because you diden't give me a clear direction her a suggestion for a way to take it.
-Draw matters: effects that trigger from you drawing cards. You had some cards already and you said you diden't want the mill cards so here are some cards i found that fits draw matter

- Minn, Wily Illusionist
- Nadir Kraken
- Nezahal, Primal Tide
- Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
- Ominous Seas
- Sturmgeist
- The Locust God
- Toothy, Imaginary Friend
- Wizard Class

Your finnisher could be Triskaidekaphile or one of the Laboratory Maniac cards as fairly drawing your deck is fun in my eyes.

I would normaly give a reason for each suggested card, but this time I'm just going to list the cards I found and let you make up you own mind about the cards

If the way you play your deck works for you than that is great. I was just concerned about the games where you would get stuck on mana early and just be out of the game because of that and wanted you to look at that to lower the chance of that happening.
Am I even playing EDH if there is no dragons in the deck?