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Author Topic: Vecna and Varina, Lich Soveriegns  (Read 512 times)

Flipsideusn

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Vecna and Varina, Lich Soveriegns
« on: April 15, 2023, 03:46:13 pm »
This is my first zombie deck and I wanted to do something different than the typical zombie sacrifice and graveyard recursion theme.  So I'm trying a zombie blink theme.  My main worry is that I don't have enough mana/ramp, but I don't know what I would cut to make room.

Deck: Vecna & Varina, Lich Sovereigns

//Commander
1 Varina, Lich Queen

//Land
1 Raffine's Tower
1 Prairie Stream
1 Sunken Hollow
1 Vault of Champions
1 Unholy Grotto
1 Underground River
1 Tainted Isle
1 Tainted Field
1 Shipwreck Marsh
1 Sea of Clouds
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Morphic Pool
1 Glacial Fortress
1 Field of the Dead
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Deserted Beach
1 Command Tower
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Arcane Sanctum
9 Swamp
3 Plains
1 Island

//Zombie Synergy / Tokens
1 From Under the Floorboards
1 Tormod, the Desecrator
1 Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver
1 God-Eternal Oketra
1 Mondrak, Glory Dominus
1 Wand of Orcus
1 Rise of the Dread Marn
1 Empty the Pits
1 Zombie Infestation
1 Necromancer's Covenant
1 Graf Harvest
1 Endless Ranks of the Dead
1 Dreadhorde Invasion
1 Vizier of the Scorpion
1 Gleaming Overseer
1 Eternal Skylord
1 Death Baron
1 Champion of the Perished
1 Cemetery Reaper
1 Grave Titan

//Graveyard Return
1 Zombie Apocalypse
1 Gisa and Geralf
1 Shadow of the Grave
1 Obscura Charm
1 Gravecrawler

//Discard Synergy
1 Dying to Serve
1 Lazotep Chancellor
1 Bone Miser
1 Cryptbreaker
1 Archfiend of Ifnir
1 Containment Construct
1 Library of Leng

//Removal / Wrath
1 Damn
1 Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant
1 Void Rend
1 Path to Exile
1 Deadly Plot
1 Murderous Rider // Swift End //
1 Binding Mummy

//Damage / Life
1 Syr Konrad, the Grim
1 Corpse Knight
1 Shepherd of Rot
1 Wayward Servant
1 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
1 Gempalm Polluter

//Mana / Card Draw
1 Empty the Laboratory
1 Teferi's Ageless Insight
1 Rooftop Storm
1 Hordewing Skaab
1 Undead Warchief
1 Arcane Signet

//Vecna
1 Hand of Vecna
1 The Book of Vile Darkness
1 Eye of Vecna

//Blink
1 The Eternal Wanderer
1 Brago, King Eternal
1 Lae'zel's Acrobatics
1 Ephemerate
1 Teleportation Circle
1 Flickerwisp
1 Displacer Kitten
1 Sword of Hearth and Home
1 Conjurer's Closet

//Copy
1 Necroduality
1 Cleaver Skaab

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Re: Vecna and Varina, Lich Soveriegns
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2023, 04:43:49 pm »
Definitely a different take on zombies. Outside of making a legendary zombie, is there any reason for the Vecna pieces? I really just don’t see what it adds and could be the three spots you’re oooking for to add ramp/lands.
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Re: Vecna and Varina, Lich Soveriegns
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2023, 05:23:36 pm »
Like Wolfie said, the Vecna pieces are what you should take out to add more ramp.  You likely could play 10 games with this deck and never get all 3 pieces in your hand or if you play a piece down it is removed before you have all three.  MAYBE if you had more ways to tutor for artifacts you need to consistently get all three, that would be something, but I feel like that's a totally different deck. 

For the record, I love the idea, I like the idea of Varina and Vecna wreaking havoc, it just seems like it would be tough to run in a moderate+ power game.  But fun level looks very high in lower powered games!

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Re: Vecna and Varina, Lich Soveriegns
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2023, 01:32:26 am »
Neat concept, though I'm not entirely sure what the blink focus adds.

If you want the fun mini game of getting Vecna, I would lean into tutors (sidisi, vamp/ Demonic tutors, Thalia's lancers, etc.) Could be fun even if you're not finding the artifacts.

I think dying to serve is not going to pay off enough and is cuttable, but most of the cards in the deck are pretty good top deck draws. I would start at the top & look at the highest cmc stuff to cut for ramp if you're just trying to thin and get faster plays.

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Re: Vecna and Varina, Lich Soveriegns
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2023, 04:50:30 pm »
Thank you for the feedback.  I agree the 3 Vecna pieces are obvious swaps for ramp.  I just thought it would be fun to try to get the lich queen and lich king in the same deck.

I went with a blink theme because I am board of the typical sacrifice/graveyard return plan that every zombie deck I have ever seen does.  Varina gave me access to the blink cards to do it.