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Might of the Ur-Dragon's Brood (EDH / Commander) [Revisione 67]

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Might of The Ur-Dragon's Brood Primer

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Introduction


Ok, this is my favorite deck so im writing a primer for it. Nobody will probably read it, but that does not matter. I have played a lot of card games, mostly on digital platforms. Then some of my friends got me to start playing paper Commander. My first deck was the The Ur-Dragon precon. I know that 5 -colour decks in not the best starting point for magic decks, but it was a new format for me and I just love dragons. My favorite colour combination is Golgari and my favorite arch-type is Reanimator. I relly enjoy the deck and have been upgrading it the whole time. There are some cards that I'm not putting in because it does not fit my playgroup(Mana Crypt), but if somebody request it then I can try to make a no budget deck list, but The Ur-Dragon will probably never be a commander for a cEDH deck because he is too slow.

Deck History


The deck started as the Precon for The Ur-Dragon. Precons are a good starting point for a deck type that you have nothing for, but pre-cons have bad mana bases and the theme was not as clear cut as I wanted. After two or three games i decided that i needed to improve the deck to keep up with the other players decks. So i googled and found EDHREC and the page with stats for cards that people put in and cards that they cut from their precon. My focus was on a better manabase and more fun and powerful dragons. I also researched other decks and primers like Ur-dragons multiverse onslaught primer, this primer was a big inspirasjon for my deck and manabase.

So the first thing that i did after i got the deck and played it a couple of times was finding out what cards was other players upgrading there The Ur-Dragon deck with and making my own list. and a core of Gruul started to form as a lot of dragons have red in there colours and green had ramp to get the needed man. The first thing that was upgraded was the mana base. Solid 5 colour mana bases are expensive, but it has alot of cards that is used in other decks and my playgroup is ok with proxis and i prefer not to proxi cards i don't own, unless they are very expensive and than it would just be for playtesting to see if I want to buy it. The decks design was based on playing Dragons and killing my opponents with combat damage. As a Student at that time, my budget was not endless so the most expensive part of the deck was the mana base because mana is important. Than i slowly bought the dragons that i liked and tried to fit them into the list and later refining after playing some games. The first iterations of the deck was slow, but it got better as i got better as a player and the deck got new and better toys like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds.
Because my group is more casual, the deck was build around facing 3 opponents. And i like the variety the deck give to each game by running low abount of tutors. Sure tutors would make the deck more powerful and i would probably swap some of the creatures for the tutors, but i like my deck as it is. I am not that big of a fan of counterspells, i know they are good and needed to stop some combo decks, but as stated earlier this is not a deck that i expect to win each game so some flaws is ok in my mind. The deck is also very colour hungery, this can be a problem vs. land hate and some staxs pieces.

I will clean up this part of the primer as i think this is just rambeling.

Why The Ur-Dragon?


You might like this deck if

  • You like dragons
  • You like winning through combat damage
  • You like playing big creatures

You might dislike this deck if

  • Dislike Dragon tribal
  • Dislike the combat Step
  • Dislike 5-colour decks

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Current Value:
Mana curve avg(without Cmd): 4,14 cmc
cmc: 0 - 0 cards (0 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 1 - 0 cards (0 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 2 - 7 cards (0 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 3 - 16 cards(2 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 4 - 14 cards(7 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 5 - 19 cards(9 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 6 - 5 cards (5 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 7 - 1 cards (1 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 8 - 1 cards (0 dragons with lowered cmc)
cmc: 9+ - 1 cards (0 dragons with lowered cmc)

Converted mana cost cmc: 0 cmc: 1 cmc: 2 cmc: 3 cmc: 4 cmc: 5 cmc: 6 cmc: 7 cmc: 8 cmc: 9+
Card with cmc 0 Cards 0 Cards 7 Cards 16 Cards 14 Cards 19 Cards 4 Cards 1 Cards 1 Cards 2 Cards
Dragons cmc calculated with The Ur-Dragon discount 0 Dragons 0 Dragons 0 Dragons 1 Dragons 7 Dragons 9 Dragons 4 Dragons 1 Dragons 0 Dragons 0 Dragons

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Revisione 112 Aprile 28, 2024 FinnernMagic
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Revisione 99 Aprile 25, 2023 FinnernMagic
Revisione 98 Aprile 25, 2023 FinnernMagic
Revisione 97 Marzo 1, 2023 FinnernMagic
Doing some card tests. Leyline binding might be a great removal spell for the deck, binding the old gods are good so might not be the real card to cut, but i want to see if bindings ramp are better than leyline bindings flash. Defense of the heart is great as a stacks piece or gives me a strong lead if activated. Swaping in survival of the fittest because i want to test it again. It is super strong at making me able to form a game plan. Was cut because tutors make deck less fun to play many times. Podcasts and youtube videos talk about chromatic lantern being slow for today's magic. So im testing conduit of worlds for it. Great for not missing lands lategame with a fetchland and the recursion might be good. Stinging study is great, but the preassure and hate that the deck generates in my playgroup makes it harder to play. Two-headed hellkite looks good, are great cheated in to play from all sorces other than the ur-dragon.
Revisione 96 Febbraio 22, 2023 FinnernMagic
Teferi's veil is back in. Helps vs boardwipes that have become more common i my playgroup. Also nice with Hellkite courser, sneak attack and phorphoros, bronze-blooded. Fircraag did goad a thing or two, but almost never draws me cards. So he is going out for testing other cards.
Revisione 95 Settembre 9, 2022 FinnernMagic
Rith is in the deck. Edit rith is doing good. Have not made a 4/4 but the ward is better than scalelords deterant effect
Revisione 94 Agosto 27, 2022 FinnernMagic
The Kami War is to slow for the decks reputation in my playgroup so trying Otawara, Soaring City for more lands and still some possible instant speed interaction. Recurable with Life from the Loam. Still unsure if Otawara, Soaring City, Bladewing the risen, Soul Shatter, Swords to Plowshares or Hall of heliod's Generosity should have the spot. While Rith, Liberated Primeval is not out yet, I'm going to start playtesting the card for Scalelord Reckoner
Revisione 93 Agosto 13, 2022 FinnernMagic
Going more Defensive with Reconnaissance over Teferi's Veil, worked great so far
Revisione 92 Luglio 27, 2022 FinnernMagic
I have not been able to playtest som of the previous changes, my opinion has changed on some of the cards so I'm still doing theoretical changes to the deck. As my Ancient Copper Dragon is soon to arrive in the mail, adding it to the deck. Dragonlord Silumgar is ok and has some nice tricks in the deck, but the low power does not trigger the draw enchantments so probably better with the Ancient Copper Dragon. Deep Gnome Terremancer is probably ok, but I really like Oath of Druids so the main reason to cut it is oath. Farseek is back in. Painful Truths for more immediate card draw and sylvan library out. Sylvan Library is great card selection and does some cool things, but the life cost for keeping extra cards is hard with all the life loss from other cards and from getting hit. Bladewing the Risen is another card i'm thinking about because it's great with Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm and can help me finnish of a game with terror of the peaks, scourge of valkas or dragon tempest Triggers. Would take the same spot as
Revisione 91 Luglio 17, 2022 FinnernMagic
Some more changes, I have changed the deck to be more grindy and probably less competitive with the current iteration. Will be Testing to see if the deck can sustain the life cost of Black market connections. I have found the potensial target for swapping in Ancient Copper Dragon in Scalelord Reckoner. Scalelord Reckoner is hard to evaluate because you don't know when it made an opponent not want to target your dragons. Have to see if i miss Scalelord Reckoner when i get my Ancient Copper Dragon. The Cards that make the Current list more Grindy is Deep Gnome Terramancer, The Kami War, Ebondeath, Dracolich and Black Market Connections. Also Added som cards I'm currently thinking about to the sideboard and moved som i'm thinking less about.
Revisione 90 Luglio 16, 2022 FinnernMagic
Don't need all 10 fetchlands in the deck, It just makes it so that I loose too much life and get got by tutor hate. Wanted to put in more basic lands so added a mountain and took out white/blue fetch because its the least needed.
Revisione 89 Luglio 15, 2022 FinnernMagic
Also want to test deep gnome terramancer for farseek. Farseek is ramp when you play it, deep gnome terramancer needs our opponent to do something, but it can ramp up to 5 times. Also works with boseiju, who endures
Revisione 88 Luglio 10, 2022 FinnernMagic
Spit flame did not get enough time for me to properly test it out, swapped for Glorybringer because i like the card ( and i have the cool art version) and fits my playstyle more. Astral Dragon is expensiv to get out and need some good non-creatures on the table. (from my plays it mostly get put out at a point where i'm winning. So because it need a way to be cheated out and it feels like win more card, it's going out of the deck and might make it back at a later date.) For cards to put in i want to test Ancient Copper Dragon as a back-up Old Gnawbone, but i don't have it so while i'm getting it, testing The Kami War as a slow value engine for longer games. Some cards in thinking about finding space for is Damn/Soul Shatter// Deafening Silence and a Mountain for an extra land
Revisione 87 Luglio 9, 2022 FinnernMagic
Just some changes to cards in sideboard as cards i'm thinking about putting in
Revisione 85 Giugno 21, 2022 FinnernMagic
Putting in more Lifegain as my mana base is painful and the deck generate a lot of aggro in my playgroup. Pattriach's Bidding out as it has underpreformed and there are a lot of graveyard hate in my meta.
Revisione 84 Giugno 17, 2022 FinnernMagic
Taking out Survival of the fittest, Card is good but this is not a graveyard deck and I think Draconic Muralists are a great fit for the deck and it replaces itself so it kind of like a card draw.
Revisione 83 Giugno 11, 2022 FinnernMagic
Need more Healing and the colour fixing in the deck is pretty good already so i'm taking out one of the lower impact lands. Also cool interaction with creatures that ping or if i have some Dragon tempest triggers on the stack.
Revisione 82 Giugno 8, 2022 FinnernMagic
Testing some things and adding the cards from commander legends: battle for baldur's gate. Teferi's veil is a way to save creatures that attacked from sorcery speed interaction and boardwipes. It also works great with Sneak Attack, Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded and Hellkite Courser as you can't sacrifice or return a phased out creature. Spit flames works nicely with ebondeath, dracolich for grindy games and kills most commanders in my playgroup.
Revisione 81 Maggio 30, 2022 FinnernMagic
Adding cards to sideboard for CL: BfBG. Miirym, Sentinel wyrm is very good for the deck. Ebondeath will stay as a pet card. Would swap for draconic muralists
Revisione 80 Aprile 29, 2022 FinnernMagic
Revisione 79 Aprile 20, 2022 FinnernMagic
Revisione 78 Marzo 16, 2022 FinnernMagic
Revisione 77 Marzo 7, 2022 FinnernMagic
Probably a change i will swap out of, but as i currently don't use my korvold deck because it's a combo deck and my new playgroup is no infinite loops or instant "win the game" combos. Survival of the Fittest is a very powerful card and i want to use it. Dragonlord Atarka was the least impactful dragon for it's cost would love to have all the dragonlords cards in the deck but there is just so many good dargons. Sterling grove is added for its effect and to help get haste or Fiery Emancipation kill with The Ur-Dragon
Revisione 76 Febbraio 21, 2022 FinnernMagic
Revisione 75 Febbraio 19, 2022 FinnernMagic
Im adding the Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty changes to the deck in two stages. In this update Atsushi, the blazing sky, Boseiju, Who Endures and Secluded Courtyard added. Kura, the boundless sky will be added to the deck when it arrives in my mail.
Revisione 74 Febbraio 3, 2022 FinnernMagic
Testing if Toski, bearer of secrets ar better. Reason for change is testing and i like to have more kaldheim showcase. for gameplay aspects: works better with double strike, better when cheated in with the Ur-Dragon trigger can draw cards on it's own. Kindred discovery is better in a tribe with lower mana costs. Still unsure about the change, if toski diees or gets exiled too much than i might switch back.
Revisione 73 Febbraio 3, 2022 FinnernMagic
Added cards I currently want to try in the deck from Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty. Currently also thinking about adding Toski, bearer of Secrets
Revisione 72 Gennaio 25, 2022 FinnernMagic
Trying some cards, Oath of Druids might be fun( swapped from Maelstrom Wanderer, cant remember last time i cast Maelstrom Wanderer, most big stuff are cheated in with Ur-dragon). Magda, Brazen Outlaw (swapped from Hellkite Tyrant) Hellkite Tyrant rarely stole something valuble(a meta call) and the "win the game" cause is hard to get (Old Gnawbone helps a lot, but at that point are we not already winning), Magda is cheaper, makes treasures and can get The Great Henge too. Immersturm Predator (swapped for Obsidian Charmaw) is getting a chance in prep for Kamigawa, Neon Dynasty deathtrigger dragon (Red and Green dragons), while the sac ability is not too relevant for the deck, it is good in case of a wrath effekt or to save a creature from an exile effekt. I also like that it grows and is graveyard hate, which the deck was lacking. Life from the loam (swapped from Rhystic Study) might not be a upgrade, but the main reason I added rhystic study in the deck was to draw more lands, now with 11 lands that go to grav
Revisione 70 Settembre 10, 2021 FinnernMagic
Added the rest of the AFR dragons from the sideboard (Tiamat and Ebondeath, Dracolich). Might swap back to Eladamri's call
» Revisione 67 Agosto 19, 2021 FinnernMagic
Just got my Old Gnawbone in the mail so now it's in the deck. Soon to be adding the other AFR dragons in the sideboard to the deck when they arrive.
Revisione 61 Luglio 21, 2021 FinnernMagic
I'm not a big fan of counter spells, but i know we need them vs. Boardwipes and combos. So I just remembered Glen Elendra Archmage is a permanent version of negate. My main reason for not putting a counterspell in is that the best versions (mana drain) are colour intensive for blue and they are bad with cascade ( I want Maelstrom wanderer to have as few blank or bad cards to cascade into ). Glen Elendra archmage's persist works great with card like rhythm of the wild and the great henge that negate the -1/-1 counter with putting a +1/+1 counter on the creature. So its probably a great addition in the deck. Swapping for Faeburrow elder because I think this is a flex spot for the deck and preformance has been mediocre.
Revisione 58 Luglio 12, 2021 FinnernMagic
Hullbreacher is banned so swapped back to faeburrow elder, also swapped in rest of the fetchlands
Revisione 55 Luglio 3, 2021 FinnernMagic
Added Old Gnawbone to sideboard for future addition to deck
Revisione 52 Giugno 30, 2021 FinnernMagic
Moved a bunch of cards from maybeboard to tokens for storage of card options i might consider or reconsider. moved sideboard cards to maybeborad so i can have planned changes to the deck in the Sideboard. Got a Misty rainforest in a pack so now i m going to try swapping the checklands and spire garden for more fetchlands. Not including Marsh Flats because black, white and blue are not primary colours for the deck. might change if Naya and Jund trioms get printed in a future sett.
Revisione 51 Giugno 3, 2021 FinnernMagic
Revisione 50 Maggio 31, 2021 FinnernMagic
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Revisione 41 Maggio 7, 2021 FinnernMagic
Revisione 40 Aprile 5, 2021 FinnernMagic
Revisione 39 Marzo 23, 2021 FinnernMagic
Revisione 38 Marzo 19, 2021 FinnernMagic
Changed back to fifth edition sylvan library as i got an altart sleeve for it.
Revisione 37 Marzo 19, 2021 FinnernMagic
Testing tutor instead of interaction, to be more flexible. Diden't want to many tutors in the deck as i like the diversity of playpatterns making me able to play the deck multiple times and not have the same boardstate multiple time, making it more fun.
Revisione 36 Marzo 9, 2021 FinnernMagic
Adding back more removal, but trying options in the decks primary colours(red or green) to make it easier to cast than Anguished Unmaking, Removed Leyline Dragon as it's the dragon that does the least, would be better if the deck was mono-red. Chaos Warp can sometimes be bad, but its removal for anything and it works around indestructable and reanimation from graveyard. The other option was Beast Within, it always gives a 3/3 beast and all dragons can handle a 3/3, but it does not work against indestructable. Fiery Emancipation is something i want to try in the deck. Its great to finish off opponents if i have a board presence or a one shot with a hit from The Ur-Dragon and cheating it down with the ur-dragon attack trigger. Will swap Fiery Emancipation with Sarkhan the Masterless. it has helped me survive some multiplayer games from tokens and is very nice with Dragonlord Silumgar, but i think it does to little in disrupting opponent or developing our board as most of the time its a 5 cmc 4/4 dragon token..
Revisione 35 Febbraio 5, 2021 FinnernMagic
Deck updated for kaldheim cards.
Revisione 34 Gennaio 21, 2021 FinnernMagic
Forgot the world tree land, might be good, but it's a tapped land and not fetchable.
Revisione 33 Gennaio 20, 2021 FinnernMagic
Added to cards to sideboard that i want to test for the deck.
Revisione 31 Dicembre 4, 2020 FinnernMagic
Trying Court Of Bounty. Might swap back, Swaperd for Nylea, Keen-Eyed
Revisione 30 Novembre 24, 2020 FinnernMagic
edit to comments on card in maybeboard and sideboard
Revisione 29 Novembre 24, 2020 FinnernMagic
Revisione 28 Novembre 20, 2020 FinnernMagic
Added Hellkite Courser swapping for Morophon, the Boundless. Morophon, the Boundless job was get out The Ur-Dragon faster. I think Hellkite Courser is better
Revisione 27 Novembre 19, 2020 FinnernMagic
Just got Expedition Cavern of Souls, replacing Savage Lands. will put in Savage Lands Triome version if its ever made for a basic or something
Revisione 26 Novembre 12, 2020 FinnernMagic
Edit to notes on cards, no change in deck
Revisione 25 Novembre 9, 2020 FinnernMagic
Just got Selvala's Stampede, swapping it for Shared Summons
Revisione 24 Novembre 7, 2020 FinnernMagic
Just got judge foil Rhystic Study. Added it replacing Hunters Insight.
Revisione 23 Novembre 6, 2020 FinnernMagic
No change, Probably change in comments on cards
Revisione 22 Novembre 6, 2020 FinnernMagic
Just got Uro,Titan of Natures wrath so, now his in the deck. Diden't get to test skyclave relic too much as i have not played that many games and never drew it during the ones i played. Might still be a great mana rock for the deck
Revisione 21 Novembre 5, 2020 FinnernMagic
Added cards i want to put into the deck.
Revisione 20 Novembre 2, 2020 FinnernMagic
0 notable edits, just removed som note text on patriarch's bidding as it was in sideboard.
Revisione 19 Novembre 2, 2020 FinnernMagic
just for testing swaped "Rishkar's Expertice" for "Hunter's Insight" for cheaper card draw, has same problem with spot removal. Really wanted "Patriarch's Bidding" so swaped for "Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire" as he has high cmc and most of the time i have to sac a land to he's trigger and opponent can flip into something worse. No longer graveyard independant
Revisione 18 Ottobre 26, 2020 FinnernMagic
Got "The Great Henge" so now it's in the deck :). its an amazing draw engine.
Revisione 17 Ottobre 22, 2020 FinnernMagic
+ "Leyline Tyrant", "Nature's Lore", "Nylea, Keen-Eyed", "Frontier Siege". -"Golos, Tierless Pilgrim", "Thunderbreak Regent", "Surrak Dragonclaw", "Anguished Unmaking". Added The Great Henge, Rhystic Study to sideboard, Want to put in, but don't want to proxy so will order and wait for it.
Revisione 16 Ottobre 22, 2020 FinnernMagic
Added cards that might come in at a later date. Want to swap Captain Sisey for demonic tutor to have a card that helps with finding rite of replication for rite + dragon that pings
Revisione 15 Ottobre 6, 2020 FinnernMagic
Changed so that i have a main combo + back-up combat damage win. Urza's Incubator- Arcane Signet + : for faster mana for other things than dragons as they don't need it as much. Tooth and Nail- Shared Summons+ : Lower mana cost, deck does not play this card entwined fast and consistent enough. Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma- Faeburrow Elder+ : faster mana. Sarkhan's Unsealing- Rite of Replication+ : Added for win-condition with terror of the peaks/scourge of valkas
Revisione 14 Ottobre 2, 2020 FinnernMagic
New addition to sideboard.
Revisione 13 Ottobre 1, 2020 FinnernMagic
Have bought the cards so im putting them in. added krosan verge for more ramp.
Revisione 12 Settembre 29, 2020 FinnernMagic
Cleaned up sideboard with potensial cards/temp swaps. Added Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded. Want to test swapping him for xenagos, God of revels. Pros: all my creatures get haste(not just 1). (2R) for Sneak Attack for red and artifact creatures. Cons: no pumping creatures bigger.
Revisione 11 Settembre 28, 2020 FinnernMagic
Added Skyglade Relic to sideboard for potensial swap for Ranger's Path. Pros: less mana cost (unkicked). Gives 1 mana back after cast. More ramp if kicked. Indestructible. All colours. Cons: does not get out lands for more gas later. gives more mana for 1 green mana more.
Revisione 10 Agosto 17, 2020 FinnernMagic
swaped Patriarch's Bidding for Captain Sisey ,to test her in the deck. might swap back or try something else. Play group has enough Graveyard hate that i don't find enough good opportunities to play this.
Revisione 9 Agosto 17, 2020 FinnernMagic
Swaped Darigaaz Reincarnated for Skyline Despot for more card draw from monarch. + monarch is fun for commander
Revisione 8 Agosto 12, 2020 FinnernMagic
Swaped Crucible of Fire for Garruk's Uprising for more card draw. not sure if its the best option. gives trample too.
Revisione 7 Agosto 11, 2020 FinnernMagic
Added Terror of the Peaks to sideboard. Want to swap it in when i get one. would swap for O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami.
Revisione 6 Maggio 18, 2020 FinnernMagic
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